Off Topic BREXIT

Ive definitely encountered them and you just made precisely my point.

 

Politics has become more about personalities than issues. Voting seems to use the same logic as the big brother house, with people refusing to listen to views, simply because they've decided they don't like the person.

 

I've travelled around Europe a bit since the last vote. Mainly holiday desinations admitted but travelled non the less. I've seen millions and millions of euros pumped into Spain, Portugal, and the Canary Isles all with large 'Funded by a grant from the European Community' boards for all to see and be grateful too. I don't see many of those signs around here. Better motorway infrastructure then we have around here ( Castle Street and the lack of a footbridge being a good example) and I've seen my home city change beyond recognition over the last dozen or so years. I see my local park a no go area at night and full of eastern European drunks by day, as if we didn't have enough of our own. I see and speak to NHS ( not the International Health Service) staff who are completely overrun, doctors surgeries at bursting point, a brand new and booming translation business and evidence first hand at the local benefits office where I was 'not entitled to even JSA' despite starting work in 1968 and not having claimed a penny piece in benefits before, yet whole families of Eastern Europeans were, complete with translator where getting told which dotted line to sign on and advice on anything they else they demanded. 'Is there anything else we can do for you'?
My work used to involve visiting nurseries which where 100% Eastern European, but paid for by us. My kids have to pay for their childrens nurseries.
We are a small island and perhaps I am an little Englander. But we don't ask for charity and we don't expect it.
I deal with builders who used to work in London now getting under cut on price by gangs of Poles. Not just in London either.
Every other trade I deal with have similar stories.
Sorry, charity begins at home. If you have something to offer and are self suffient and don't expect to leech off us then of course you are welcome otherwise sorry pal, England is full.

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploa...ata/file/511951/Beneficary_List-_Feb_2016.pdf

 

I wasn't referring just to Hull, but even the Icelandic situation can't be viewed in isolation .

 

Backs up my point really well. Not much evidence around here.

 

You do realise that EU migrants cant claim benefits in the UK until they have worked?

 

And whose fault is that? Clearly the money is there after it has been given to other metropolitan areas for projects, or do you think someone is sat at EU headquarters rubbing their dirty hands laughing maniacally as he turns down another project in Hull?

 

Do they actually believe this?

 

And do you believe the moon is made of green cheese ?

 

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Aaaah, so you're accusing all politicians - including the vote leave campaign - of lying then?

This isnt opinion you know, it's FACT.

 

I wonder how proactive Hull has been in applying for things?

 

No I just think we have been short changed on a massive scale. As my earlier post said, we had three serving cabinet ministers as our local MP's at one time. Yet still we got short changed.
I vote as I see.

 

Believe what you like.

Who pays for their health care/education/housing/social needs etc etc etc.
Go on, tell me, the tooth fairy.

 

I didnt say they dont get healthcare or education, I said they cant claim benefits. Which is FACT.

 

Free health care, housing and education is a benefit. Somebody has to pay for it.