Off Topic European Debate Thread

Lack of foreign investment = less jobs = less tax income = more benefits payments, WAY MORE than the £8 billion a year saved...

p.s. I edited the previous post a bit more than when you probably read it to broaden the explanation

 

Thats assuming a lack of foreign investment which is just speculation and your assumption that its way more more than £8bn a year is also complete speculation?

Where are you getting these figures?

 

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Why can't my children have free degrees???

 

You are correct, it is speculation but it is based on what is known to have already happened in the last few months so not entirely unfounded. The leave campaign however seems to base it's entire campaign on the premise that, "nah, that won't happen. I content that the rest of the world simply won't take us seriously any more and it would be like cutting off our nose to spite our face.

The truth is that no one REALLY knows what will happen but I bet you that I am closer to the truth than Gove and friends who are doing a very passable impression of an ostrich...

 

Blimey, they're so old now, I fink it'd be necrophilia.

Can't you encourage them to like ladies nearer their own age?

 

Had to think about that one for a minute...

 

Industry in this country won't just stop because we pull our membership of a failing bureaucratic dictatorship.

Big eyes in the EU club are waiting for our vote and will follow our lead.

(off to bed now.. sincerely hope all the family are well Prem)

 

I was smiling to myself when writing that!

 

Cheers banksy, calling it a night myself...

 

This is the ridiculousness that you are voting Remain for??

 

What a furking joke it is costing me a small fortune to have my youngest at leeds uni,and a 5 year stint before qualified.

This country has got its priorities wrong,

Another massive reason for us to vote out.

Wrong Wrong Wrong.

 

I have one simple question I would like Cameron and the rest of the Remain camp in the govt to answer.

Why is it that we set up assemblies in Scotland and Wales because devolution of power to a more local level is seen as the way to go. Then argue in favour of allowing the EU to take power in exactly the opposite direction.

If moving decisions to a more local level is part of govt policy how can they possibly support remaining in the EU. That does exactly the opposite and is totally inconsistent!

 

A reason to vote out? Are you ****ting me?

Refugees from outside the Eu getting scholarships to help them succeed despite them being in difficult circumstances after fleeing from war torn countries. How despicable.

If this is a reason to vote out then you really must be stupid.

 

RR - you've got the racist card again from mtg.
I read one comment on the BP site from a Pole talking about his grandfather defending 'your' country.
Didn't the Germans and Russians carve up Poland in '39 ?
That Polish grandfather should thank God we entered the war when Hitler invaded Poland.

'you really must be stupid' - sorry MTG, you own this one.

 

A shocking comment. Yet again shows you CLEARLY havent read peoples comments.

What is it that you dont get about this...

Bristol University launches free degrees for refugees and asylum seekers. British folk have to pay for such luxuries.
Is that fair?
British people working hard long hours to TRY to afford for themselves or for their kids to get further education to try and get degrees to succeed in life. But this gets offered for FREE for refugees and asylum seekers!
Yes they may have lived in difficult times but why does that mean they get degrees for FREE while our own people have to PAY? Why cant they work hard here like British people have to do to pay for it? Or even better, why cant it be free for British people too? Why is it 1 rule for 1 and another rule for the other?

Its things like this that causes divisions. Some people like yourself will call it racism. Its not racism. We just want equality. How is it fair when people come here from other countries and get offered the world while our own people get pushed back to the back of the line?

Your response to Red Robin is shocking.

 

I never said that he was racist in my response.

 

Is it shocking? or are you as deluded as RR, you are a sag so probably the latter.

1) Scholarships are designed to reward people and help support people. Would you rather a refugee had to beg for a living or get a degree and try and make something of themselves.

2) equality is helping those from disadvantaged backgrounds. Not the I haven't got it so no-one else should approach you have adopted.

3) THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE EU. Therefore voting out would change **** all about it. Hence why it is a stupid reason.

 

Wow. You love your insults dont you. Big man behind a keyboard. Bravo to you sir.

1) "Scholarships are designed to reward people and help support people." No **** sherlock.
"Would you rather a refugee had to beg for a living or get a degree and try and make something of themselves." I would rather everyone had the same chance. Not free for 1 and not free for the other. Get it yet?

2) "equality is helping those from disadvantaged backgrounds". No, equality is the state of being equal, especially in status, rights or opportunities.
"Not the I haven't got it so no-one else should approach you have adopted." Show me where have I adopted that approach? If you havent worked it out yet, ALL my comments are about being equal. If 1 gets it for free, they all should. Clearly you havent read ALL of my comment, meaning you have selective reading, meaning you make a fool of yourself with your comments which has been largely evident through-out this whole thread.

3) "THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE EU." Thats your opinion. But seems to contradict your previous opinions when you said immigration is the ONLY thing 'leavers' are thinking about. Without immigration, such things as free degrees wouldnt be happening would it. Now you try and put 2 and 2 together, and even with your webbed fingers, im sure even you will get it.
"Therefore voting out would change **** all about it. Hence why it is a stupid reason." Utter clueless.

I may as well put just BLAH BLAH BLAH as thats all you seem to understand

 

Explain to me how refugees from non Eu backgrounds getting scholarships is to do with the Eu and how leaving would change things?

If you can then I will take back the stupid reason comments

 

Incorrect. Cameron and Osbourne have made assertions as to what the consequences will be if the UK leaves the EU. These consequences are an emergency budget and further cuts to public services.

If the UK votes to leave the EU there will be an interim period of at least a year before the UK actually legally leaves. A emergency budget would be revenge. It is a threat.