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  1. Bodinki

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    I Leicester match Arsenal's offer then I would be tempted to stay.
    Otherwise I would be out of there.
     
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    I think it is pathetic that we are all here justifying player's move away from a championship winning team based on money. Mind you, many of them still make more in a week than most of us make in a year.

    If it is all about money for the players, then why the fk are we even loyal to our respective teams? After all, we lose money in this ordeal and of the twenty top teams, only one of them can win the league. So why must the fans continue to buy season tickets when players continue to under perform? Loyalty perhaps?! If that is expected of the fans, then at very least a Championship winning team must do all they can to keep their players and in return their players should understand the boundaries of the constraints that their respective teams have to work with.

    I am by no means suggesting players should not leave a club. But these players are already rich beyond most of our wildest dreams, yet all their decisions are solely based on money and nothing else. No wonder players have become so powerful that they can get managers fired at will.

    Hey, this rant is useless anyway. We all know that fans are ALWAYS the victim in this story. The owners and players rape us at will and we will continue bending over for more. Football, eh!
     
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    Because the bottom line is this;

    It is the footballers job.

    It is the fans love. (for most of us anyway)
     
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    And I get that, Chief. But even in our respective worlds, money is not central to everything that we do.

    I am in a job right now that pays me sht loads of money but after six months in the job, it quite frankly not the right job. I would gladly take 10% pay cut to get to where I am more useful and respected. I don't think footballers are much different.
     
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    And a lot of players will stay out of loyalty and love for the club, I think it's fair to say Giggs, Scholes and G Neville did for instance.

    But, if the wages on offer are double what you currently earn and you've realistically got three or four more years top wage earning power left you would understandably go.

    Vardy will not be rich beyond anyone's wildest dreams just yet. If Leicester match Arsenal's offer though then I would agree, I could see many reasons for him to not leave. Not least the obvious buzz he will have got in being part of last season.

    It doesn't necessarily make him the same as a Leicester fan though.
     
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    Would you take a 33% pay cut?
     
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    Doubled his wages in February.

    http://www.skysports.com/football/n...-signs-new-leicester-city-contract-until-2019

    TV money means Leicester can afford it even without winning the PL - not a coincided that happened two or three days after it was revealed the new TV deals will be an average of almost £140 million per club per year for the next three seasons.

    A 50% increase is still not to be sneezed at, but the days of smaller clubs being unable to even consider competing on wages with the bigger ones is largely over, particularly for a player like Vardy who wouldn't be as big a fish in the Arsenal squad.
     
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    I dont imagine that will bother him one iota.
     
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    Also, I saw that article too, and they did double his wages, but its not anything like 80k a week from what I can see, not sure where Sky pulled that figure from.
    Its more like he was on 20k per week and it got doubled to 40k pw.

    Even still Arsenal will probably offer him 90k a week or more, maybe even 100k +.
    Only way I would stay is if Leicester matched the offer.
     
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    His wages were doubled to £40k a week back in 2014 when he signed his first extension.

    He's also reported as being on £80k a week in the Leicester Mercury, which as the local rag probably has some degree of inside knowledge:

    http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Jamie-Vardy-huge-dilemma-facing/story-29362818-detail/story.html

    Arsenal are offering him £120k, but I reckon he'd probably stay if Leciester could offer £100k. Whilst money will always be a factor, I think players nowadays are more wary around chasing the big bucks in the short term rather than having more long term certainty. Wright Philips, Sidwell, Rodwell et all have all probably massively reduced their lifetime earnings expectations by jumping after the short term money, so an immediate pay rise isn't as attractive as it once was.
     
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    Its a win win for Vardy though, because of his age.
    Rodwell and SWP were youngsters, Vardy is 29, and at most has 3-4 years at the top level.
    If he gets a 3 year deal with Arsenal on 120k per week, then thats his retirement sorted.
    Plus he gets to play for a big club in the Champions league till he retires.
    Not like he has much competition upfront in that squad so he will play too, i mean who will oust him? Giroud? <laugh>

    And contradictory to what this season showed us, he has far more chances of winning silverware with Arsenal than he does with Leicester.
     
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    Emirates cup.

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    Yeah right! lol.

    But Vardy is not exactly taking paycuts.
     
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    But so is a 4 year deal with Leicester on £100k per week (reported latest offer). And Leicester would be much more likely to remember him and help him into coaching if he wants in future, like Utd with Giggs or Butt, whilst Arsenal will just **** him off as soon as he is of no more use to them.

    Also not out of the realms of possibility that Arsenal might try and force him out before his contract is up, as they did with Paul Merson, if they decide he is of no more use to them. Couldn't see Leicester ever trying that, although if they did have a terrible season and go down then they might have to shift high earners on.
     
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    But his current contract at Leicester is 33% less than Arsenal's offer.

    So if you wouldn't consider doing the same job for 33% less pay, why would you think Vardy shouldn't?
     
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    Taking a paycut is not the same as electing to go with 100k at Leicester over Arsenal's 120k. Stevie G did it when Chelsea offered him far more. You can't possibly compare his situation to a regular man earning less than they make in a week in a full year.
     
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    You just did!!

    And ultimately taking a pay cut to do the same job is not much different from turning down a pay increase to do the same job, particularly for footballers where moving club is pretty common.

    Let's put it another way, if you were offered a 20% pay increase to do the same job at another company, would you take it?
     
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    He has snubbed Arsenal
     
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    Is it really a snub if you're just using another club to blackmail your current club into giving you a huge pay rise?
     
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