Ex-Manager Thread
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If he goes, he goes. I'll be disappointed and without wanting to sound clichéd and like a scorned lover... I thought Ronald was different.
But, I can totally see the logic if Koeman isn't willing to commit for more than one more season and Les and Katharina have a new five-year plan, which has been mentioned by Guan on SaintsWeb previously.
He said it wouldn't be a big surprise to him if Saints moved Koeman on this summer, if he was unwilling to sign up for the length of the plan.
I have full faith in Les to handle the situation to the best of his abilities.
If Ronald goes, the club has a vacant managerial position in the best health it's arguably ever been in. Could make an exciting appointment.
But, I can totally see the logic if Koeman isn't willing to commit for more than one more season and Les and Katharina have a new five-year plan, which has been mentioned by Guan on SaintsWeb previously.
He said it wouldn't be a big surprise to him if Saints moved Koeman on this summer, if he was unwilling to sign up for the length of the plan.
I have full faith in Les to handle the situation to the best of his abilities.
If Ronald goes, the club has a vacant managerial position in the best health it's arguably ever been in. Could make an exciting appointment.
Ps. I actually think it's silly when people compare football jobs to the outside world jobs
Why?
I'm also not melting down here, I'm just flummoxed that "person evaluates options and chooses what is right for them" is a form of greed or betrayal. There would be far fewer meltdowns if people accepted the notion that players/managers are themselves people with all the self-interest common to our species, rather than paragons of virtue or malevolent ne'er-do-wells.
Absolutely. I had a job offer floated to me some time back. Would have paid more. Rather than bolt for the door, I took it to my employer, and we worked something out. Had they instead expressed dismay because they didn't realize I was so greedy, I'd have been out in a flash.
That's fine.
Your opinion - the board will look foolish if he goes. They should have kept quiet.
My opinion - the board won't look foolish, they've just said how things were looking.
We just have different amounts of liquid in our glasses
Yep, and if the figures knocking about are true then there is no way we would compete with that
What's so wrong with Frank de boer. I think he's a good coach and would have been a cert for the Everton job. If Koeman goes I would be happy having him Berkamp and Stam in the dug out.
If he was to leave for Arsenal, Barcelona, Holland National team etc I would understand, but to take on a similar job at Everton, does not make sense unless it is about higher wages?
Everton will have a major rebuilding job this summer. Lukaku has already said he will be leaving, Stones will go as well. That leaves an ageing squad of Baines, Barry, Jagielka, Coleman etc etc. Think they're going to need to spend more than £100 million to have a chance of top 6.
We are in the Europa League Stages and have finished 13 points ahead of Everton in the last 2 Seasons, yes traditionally Everton have been a bigger club, but they were last seen a a truly big club back in the 80's.
Like I say, just don't really get it if it's based on a football decision only, but saying that we were all fearful when mopo left, and that didn't turn out to bad??
Everton will have a major rebuilding job this summer. Lukaku has already said he will be leaving, Stones will go as well. That leaves an ageing squad of Baines, Barry, Jagielka, Coleman etc etc. Think they're going to need to spend more than £100 million to have a chance of top 6.
We are in the Europa League Stages and have finished 13 points ahead of Everton in the last 2 Seasons, yes traditionally Everton have been a bigger club, but they were last seen a a truly big club back in the 80's.
Like I say, just don't really get it if it's based on a football decision only, but saying that we were all fearful when mopo left, and that didn't turn out to bad??
I'm happy as I am and it would take a lot to lure me away. I can't be the only person to think like that. Especially having once left one employer for another in the same business who promised me the earth, only for the new employer to go bust a year later. But yeah, football's different; if you're not winning every week then pretty soon you're walking home.
It would be disappointing if he goes because of money when he's been saying for weeks that Leicester winning shows it not all about money. He is very rich already he doesn't need even more money, that is just greed. People in normal jobs are not generally millionaires and more likely to be earning 10s of £1000s per year it's completely different.
Nothing to do with optimism surely. I have confidence the board will replace Koeman with a manager that can continue to improve us, they've done it before and I see no reason why they won't do it again.That's fine.
Your opinion - the board will look foolish if he goes. They should have kept quiet.
My opinion - the board won't look foolish, they've just said how things were looking.
We just have different amounts of liquid in our glasses
I read that Koeman and De Boer have the same agent, so are we sure that the talks taking place are definitely regarding Koeman?
Agreed that this "new direction" Guan mentioned could be exciting but who's a bigger name than Koeman who could genuinely fit this project? Emery, of course, but anyone else who is available?
Will wait and see, but if koeman goes, I will be the most disappointed in a person that I have ever been. He will have set himself up as one type of person and then showed he is no better than everyone else.
Really. Well still wouldn't mind Berkamp and de boer. Maybe get Van basten instead of Stam.
This would make sense with all the rumours today, and I could understand the boards position. Ferguson admitted that the worse mistake he made was the first time he was going to leave Utd by announcing it at the start of the season, and all the players levels dropped off. Also look at Pellegrini at Man City?
You could also understand the clubs reluctance to give RK a large transfer fund, in the knowledge he was going to leave at the end of the season?
So maybe the plan has always been to get a new manager in on a long term deal, to push on again, as Guan hinted on saintsweb?
Never a dull summer being a Saints fan.
Roger Schmidt. Marcelino. Jorge Sampaoli. Unai Emery. Frank De Boer. Manuel Pellegrini.
Andre Schubert, although he's not too experienced at the top level yet.
They'd all excite me. I'd still love us to really try to go for Eddie Howe.
Now isn't the worst time to lose a manager, in terms of who's feasibly on the market.
Going through those options, Marcelino has only had success at one club but could be a good shout. Sampaoli would be incredible but doesn't speak a word of English - problematic? Emery yes of course. FDB wouldn't excite me (look how far we've come!) and Pellegrini I think isn't the man to build from the bottom, he hasn't done that at any of his last 4 clubs. Come to think of it, we don't know if Sampaoli could do that either.
Emery is the only one who ticks the boxes for me at this stage...