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Skrtel anyone.

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by cumbrianmackem, May 22, 2016.

  1. Nads

    Nads Well-Known Member

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    He isn't mate, all rivalry aside its a potentially great club.

    He is too high level for the Championship though, without a doubt.
     
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    I hope you`re right mate, (both of you) but I refuse to get carried away with the optimism. I would agree Sam is the best option we`ve had for a long time but after the repeated lash ups of the last 5 years, atm I would settle for 12th.

    Not optimism, pessimism, realism or any other ism. Just a little bit of heading in the right direction. Tired of scrabbling around in the bloody basement.
     
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  3. marcusblackcat

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    As you say, one ok season at Swansea and utter gash ever since! Wouldn't want him either to be honest. (And I think skrtel is overrated!)
     
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  4. The Relic

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    We have O'Shea for one more season (I think) and Beadling on the horizon. So I don't want any signing that might upset the Kone-Kaboul partnership. That's looking good at the moment.
     
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  5. Commachio

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    Kaboul being injury prone is the biggest worry. Keep him and Kone fit, thats a good start to a solid defence.
     
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    Agreed. But we still have O'Shea to cover for one more year, and Beadling looking a real prospect. We can afford to leave the CD issue for at least one more year without upsetting any apple-carts. That's what I'm getting at.
     
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  7. Commachio

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    I agree, thats why i didnt say much more.

    Im not an O'Shea fan, but as a back up he'll do for now, if it means improving other positions.
     
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    I'm not an O'Shea fan either mate. In fact, I might (repeat very cautiously 'might') consider one relatively cheap option - Matt Kilgallon is being released by Blackburn. This lad never put a foot wrong for us on the field. His issues, whatever they are, are clearly serious and off the field. Only Sam can decide the seriousness of that and I'm not offering any opinions here. But it's there - and he is potentially excellent. Make your own mind up Sam.
     
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  9. Commachio

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    Think i'd stick with O'Shea. He's the wrong side of 30 (32), we need younger. Plus he's only played 94 times in the last 6 years despite being in the lower leagues.
     
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  10. red&white wanderer

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    I did say AMBITIONS- instead of our usual not in bottom 3 aims - imo BSA will lead us forwards with help from MB and ES - apologies
    We have different mindset to you atm but I feel we are on a winning journey
    What your views on Mournino Tel - dodgy appt imo - not long term.
    Van Gaal did win things and was moulding you to a winning team -imo
     
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    Rafa I G - you're obviously still in a state of shock and emotionally vulnerable - it's a lot to take - Will he stay ? How will we cope ? How many points will we win the fizzy pop league by ? - many mixed thoughts oh dear ... but at least we have BMA to stand by us - <peacedove> harmless banter
     
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    Rafa I G - you're obviously still in a state of shock andemotionally vulnerable -


    ****ing hell. Do you ever think before typing with your forehead?
     
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    <laugh>. At least the rest of it was readable!
     
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  14. Tel (they/them)

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    Seems to be a hell of a lot of people who are convinced Mourinho will flop at United (loads on local radio), I guess we'll find out.

    Did I want him as our first choice? No.

    Do I rate him? Hell yes.

    Is he a winner? Yes.

    Is he the best we could have got? Probably.
     
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    For the record, I don't think he'll flop.

    If he does though, I really don't think he'll be picking his next job. He'll still get top jobs of course, but I don't think every club would want him. If he had no history with Real Madrid, for instance. I don't think they'd have him if he flopped at Man Utd, especially with the way it ended for him at Chelsea.

    He'd be managing at decent champions league clubs, but not the 'top top' clubs, if you know what I mean.
     
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  16. red&white wanderer

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    Agree with you its a question mark against his longevity - that's all - his charisma is off the planet so c a n cope with a big club like Man Utd. He just seems to spit dummy out at times and his opposite number at Man City will cause him angst - no
    Yes he was pretty reliable when playing.
    But maybe we should aim higher now as he would be for a good solid player but we need more quality with successful experiences
     
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  17. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    For the record also, I didn't mean you, just been out in the car and it seems a lot of people (on the radio) think he'll bomb.

    I can't see him being a failure here, he'll win things most likely (If Van Gaal can he can) but it's the manor in which he wins things that will be his undoing, at this club. If he wants to buy, buy, buy he'll not be loved here, but if he gets a PL title out of Rashford and the boys with only a few additions, that haven't cost the earth and plays attacking football he'll be a legend.

    This'll all become very funny if we employ Giggs now after all this fluff about Jose.
     
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  18. Tel (they/them)

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    Wait until you see 'his opposite number at Man City' mate... talk about being a big baby.
     
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  19. red&white wanderer

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    Yeah gifted managers are often embroiled in controversy - abbreviation free post
     
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  20. Tel (they/them)

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    WD <applause>
     
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