WHO WILL BE THE NEW MANAGER?

[Taffvalerowdy]

Francesco oh oh oh
Francesco oh oh oh
He came from Italy
Here to The Liberty
Francesco oh oh oh
Francesco oh oh oh

I think he deserves a crack at the job: I was dubious, but he has more than delivered - and delivered with a squad not of his own choosing.

That said, I expect that the Yanks/Indonesians have agreed with Huw's preferred candidate, namely Brendan.

 

[ValleyGraduate12]

Even during Francos absence by curtis's own admission it was Franco selecting the team. It was his training regime in place at the time. Both Cork and Fab have come out in support of him in recent days. So a no brainer for me give him the job. The fans continually sang Francos name at the match on saturday.

Agreed. However, those games only improved when Curtis made changes, which by his admission he had full control over once the games started.
Am I convinced he's the right man to take over full time? Not sure. Is he growing on me? Yes.
The Man City game needs the same performance as Saturday before I make my mind up fully.

 

[Kifflom!]

I know everyone takes the old "I have it on good authority.." type posts with a pinch of salt and rightly so. BUT I have it on good authority ...that Morgan wants Guidolin to stay - that may not be a surprise I don't know. But the other thing is that Di Matteo has thrown his hat into the ring. That's a shock.

 

[ValleyGraduate12]

I know everyone takes the old "I have it on good authority.." type posts with a pinch of salt and rightly so. BUT I have it on good authority ...that Morgan wants Guidolin to stay - that may not be a surprise I don't know. But the other thing is that Di Matteo has thrown his hat into the ring. That's a shock.

I hope to Christ it's not Di Matteo. He was a puppet manager at Chelsea.
At least Poyet has taken a job elsewhere.

 

[seabreeze]

Boring

I asked a valid question. If you can't provide an answer without trying to be snarky don't bother Roof.

I could have argued, take away the 3 wins and a draw under Curtis away and we'd only be 2 points above the relegation zone. All of a sudden, doesn't look to promising.

No real comment except to say pitiful valley , then and now

 

[seabreeze]

Agreed. However, those games only improved when Curtis made changes, which by his admission he had full control over once the games started.
Am I convinced he's the right man to take over full time? Not sure. Is he growing on me? Yes.
The Man City game needs the same performance as Saturday before I make my mind up fully.

Last game left after 15 games in charge getting 24 points .
Half the team will be unavailable for that last game and valley wants to wait till after the City game to make his decision .....it's a good thing you doesn't decide much ..... is the best I can do .

 

[Kifflom!]

...on the other hand you said we'd be fighting relegation under Guidolin next season but would definitely be relegated if we replaced him.

I understand where Valley's coming from. Hard to ignore those awful performances under Guidolin AND the fact we played a very weakened Chelsea and Liverpool. Those are valid observations whether you like them or not - but yes, the performances were great, no denying that. West Ham on the other hand was downright outstanding.

As Valley says, he's growing on me but am I sure? No, definitely not. Making snide comments won't get anyone to change their mind on that if that's the way they feel.

 

[seabreeze]

I've watch you and valley call him everything from a twat to useless . I' m afraid it isn't him that is an ungrateful twat ,
Now you and valley is a different story .
And I give up explaining anything to you , you're to stupid to realize what was said

 

[seabreeze]

Guidolin took over with 16 games remaining , 1 point from relegation .
If he wins his 16 th game in charge on Sunday , we will finish our 2nd highest point total since we've been up .
And all you two can do his attempt to dismantle any credit toward Guidolin , both of you are nothing short of pitiful

 

[DragonPhilljack]

..... Breezy your on a wum again! Let's behave now girls, no need for the handbags, you've all been good little boys this season for the most part, and considering the season we have had, I'm well impressed with you, so don't spoil it............




More of the same please girls...........

 

[seabreeze]

Breezy your on a wum again! Let's behave now girls, no need for the handbags, you've all been good little boys this season for the most part, and considering the season we have had, I'm well impressed with you, so don't spoil it............




More of the same please girls...........

At least I don't wum my own current manager at every turn , the only credit given to Guidolin since he has dragged us to almost the top ten , is the away fans at West Ham ...bless them .
I 'm almost hoping he moves on to another club , a club that shows appreciation cause he will never really get it with us

 

[DragonPhilljack]

Breezy we all got preferences and favourites for the job, it's just that you and I have stuck with Franco for good reason, while others have never warmed to him, but are now, nothing wrong with that, and it's all part of the rich tapestry of debate, remember this too, Valley is a young man, can you remember when you were in your twenties? I know it will take you some time, but I'm sure you get my point............

 

[Kifflom!]

I'm hoping you move on to another club Roof

 

[DragonPhilljack]

.....Not a chance, it's the Celtic connection in him.............

 

[Kifflom!]

Valley may be young but he's right imo. Hilarious that when any criticism is made of Guidolin - even when it's completely justified - is seen as an act of high treason by our resident Canuckfuck. It's ridiculous. I've rarely seen a more emotional guy here. Are you related to him in some way Roof? Are you secretly Roofolini?

Think rationally, man. Is the points ratio good? Hell yes. Has Guidolin done a good job here? Yes. Has he got us out of the mire? Yes, and then some. Are we playing good football under him? Yes, but in patches. West Ham was brilliant. Leicester and Toon? Not so much. Have we played some of the worst football since promotion on his watch? Damn right. Diabolical at times. Villa at home? Terrible. Did we play a weakened Liverpool and Chelsea? Yes, and saying otherwise defies reality. But fair play we still played some great stuff at times and you can only beat who is in front of you.

The reason some of us aren't getting carried away with the euphoria is for two reasons: 1: It's not in our nature. You can't change that by browbeating. 2: As Dragon points out, we have had some awful displays under him, and not just at the start of his tenure. If some want to stick their head in the sand then great. But you can't criticise those here that remember it - and are still worried about it.

Now, does he deserve a crack at it? I wouldn't be upset if he got it and I can't argue he probably deserves it but I would still be concerned because of those terrible displays. The reason I raised your earlier post Roof is that you yourself said we'd struggle next season under him. That view now seems to have changed and I get that because mine has too, at least to some exrtent, but don't expect the more cautious posters here not to have real worries about it.

 

[seabreeze]

Breezy we all got preferences and favourites for the job, it's just that you and I have stuck with Franco for good reason, while others have never warmed to him, but are now, nothing wrong with that, and it's all part of the rich tapestry of debate, remember this too, Valley is a young man, can you remember when you were in your twenties? I know it will take you some time, but I'm sure you get my point............

I worry about my clubs fans at times.... " Great Expectations" times ten it seems . Seems plain to me , 16 games of success but with a ball and chain series of terrible games latched to Guido ankle.Scenario 1: 16 games at the end of a season , during a relegation battle with a team he didn't assemble ...scenario.2: Guidolin's super successful managerial history . I think I'll throw my weight behind his history rather than the ball and chain .
I'm at the point where I don't care about respect not being shown Guidolin ,like most . It's the few that disrespect
That I can't get past .

 

[DragonPhilljack]

Roofolino?.............


Yes those bad displays, mostly against the bottom sides, are something that have been with us under previous managers to, and it has to be with the mind set going into games against teams below us, and it's my view it will take some time for (hopefully) franco to purge that out of our players heads, there are some good signs that that is starting to happen, just hope he gets a new full season and a pre-season to set his stamp with no pressure of relegation............

 

[Kifflom!]

I agree that Guidolin isn't alone, Phil. But he's the one we're discussing as he's in the hot seat.

Roofolini: "Scenario 1: 16 games at the end of a season , during a relegation battle with a team he didn't assemble" But that's the job he was brought in to do. Mission accomplished and well done. But are you suggesting that this team isn't good enough? That he could have assembled better players? Not sure about either proposition. I maintain this is the best squad we've had - by a long way. A manager's job is to work with players he didn't bring in - in fact it's the norm.

Before you say I'm putting words in your mouth or that I have a giant transatlantic mind reading machine (Nothing would surprise me) I'm asking that's all.

"Scenario.2: Guidolin's super successful managerial history" Yep - that's true.....but history counts for not so much as you think. Mourinho anyone? Also, you cannot escape the poor performances. You just can't.

Would i be sad if he got the job? Absolutely not. Would I be worried? You bet.

 

[trundles left foot]

I think Guidolin has put his hand up, But I cant get past looking at the performances, against WBA, Villa, Palace and Norwich and yes in most of those games we got what we wanted, but we were outplayed in everyone of them and maybe just maybe when we get outplayed next season we wont be so lucky in getting these results. Up until 2 or 3 weeks ago I wouldn't have had him near the job, now I have given a bit and am pleased with the recent performances, the best being against a full Europe chasing WHU.

But there is something that nags with me and I think it is all those awful performances since January despite getting points in many of them. I am glad I am not making the decision and I believe the decision has already been made. We will just have to each of u live with who it will be and get behind them.

 

[seabreeze]

I got no problems accepting a managerial change , as stupid as it might or might not be .
But the disrespect this man has taken for taking us from 1 point from relegation to possibly are 2nd highest point total since we've been up is overwhelming for me . No respect needed , check you're disrespect at the door though is all I ask whatever way this goes .. He is our current manager .I will accept whatever happens , it's how it is happening which makes me feel shameful toward this manager . At this point , he will weigh his options even if he is offered the job , who would blame him IMO