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Show the membership scheme the red card!

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  1. Edelman

    Edelman Well-Known Member

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    Thats almost Churchillian.
     
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  2. tigerscanada

    tigerscanada Well-Known Member

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    Bit of a downer that one Bengals. Welcome back.:emoticon-0100-smile
     
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  3. tigerscanada

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    I'd suggest you do that in a different order, otherwise it'll be a cardiac surgeon massaging you.:emoticon-0105-wink:
     
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  4. tigerscanada

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    Agreed.
    So 'x' people join the membership scheme. For a price of 'y' quid. An uncertain number, which may or may not give the owners some sense of support/lack of support for the scheme.
    Once those numbers are known, a second wave of demonstration should be embarked upon. The Trust and word of mouth should advertise strongly to pick a game early next season to encourage as many as possible to boycott a particular match. If its only 1/23rd or 1/19th of 'y' quid (the price of season admission) for joining a boycott, then that may well be palatable for many to join a boycott. The first televised home game would be ideal for such a demonstration, with "red cards" being handed out by protest organizers (Trust ?) to the reduced attendees on the day. The press should be lobbied by the Trust to attend & report on that selected game in addition to the TV company . Such a move in my mind would maximize the fact that many object to the membership scheme and support those who lose out by it, but those who do attend are sympathetic to the objections to it. A half full stadium, with those in the stadium brandishing red cards in sympathy/support.
    Might work. Perhaps even lower the divide between those who are adamant & refuse to join up and those who don't want to miss physically supporting their team on the day, in a show of solidarity.
     
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  5. DMD

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    What's the arrangements for those in upper west?

    Do they renew their old seats and hope to find a space if it's closed?

    It's separate to the membership scheme and looks to be going ahead unchallenged, despite their potentially being considerable ramifications.
     
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    I'd be surprised if it does.

    We're hardly going to lose our seats as lots aren't buying in.
     
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  7. Charon

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    unless we get promotion, the stadium will be half full anyway - by now Allam will realise that he's completely ****ed up - maybe he was lucky with Allam Marine and actually believes his own hype about being a business genius - now he must realise that he isn't and is a small fish in very rich pond
     
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  8. tigerscanada

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    I, for one, am waiting for the begging letter from the Allams.
    I'm holding my breath...21 minutes and counting...

    please log in to view this image
     
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    See my previous post...his other business is tapping into disasters...
     
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    i like your idea of 'x' people. i hoped there might be one or two already as i've been a board user for some years and could have built up a little bit of a following, but it hadn't occurred to me before you mentioned it that that might be how they identify themselves nor that there might be enough of them to spearhead some sort of decisive action in the war against the madness of the owners. good heavens. well, i am ready to shoulder the responsibility of leading my followers for the good of the club, its fans, and the city. it's a little overwhelming and i can feel the hand of history on my shoulder, presumably trying to thrust greatness on me. i will do what i can, for the greater good and not for personal glory. where do i sign? is there a salary?
     
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  11. originallambrettaman

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    West Upper Only – Please call the Membership Team to select a new seat – however, if the club is promoted you will have the option to move back to Upper Tier between 2nd June – 7th June

    http://www.hullcitytigers.com/documents/earn-your-stripes-brochure116-3061002.pdf
     
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  12. originallambrettaman

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    If we start next season with the current scheme in place, then it will almost certainly remain in place whatever happens. We're all painfully aware of how stubborn the owners are and if protests and poor sales don't stop it now, they're unlikely to have much effect once the season starts.

    Current sales of 4,500 memberships is obviously piss poor, it will be interesting to see how many now decide to renew before Friday's deadline. If it remains very low, I expect the club will sit back and pray for promotion. Should promotion not be achieved and sales end up over 30% down on current pass sales, I can't see there'll be any option but to change it.
     
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  13. dennisboothstash

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    I hope you're right
    I was really just referring to the idea that a monthly fee could be increased with notice, but I take your point
     
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  14. dennisboothstash

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    It's the other way round I think
    They choose a new seat but then can move back to the original if promoted
    I agree these new evictions are being underplayed, sadly I expect lots of them may move and find they don't know people around them, feel no affinity for the area because of that and then gradually drift off the season after anyway
    In fact presumably the 1700 evictees are included in the 4500 renewals, which bearing in mind they will have surely gone early if at all makes the figure look even worse
     
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    There is a figure of 4,500 renewals doing the rounds - but isn't it inevitable that the number will be depressed at this stage? Anyone who is an existing ST holder and intending to move to a new area of the ground to get a cheaper price won't have renewed yet, that comes in a couple of weeks' time. No idea what the numbers wanting to do this may be - perhaps only a few hundred? - but the true renewals number will emerge once that period is closed.

    I wonder what the club's measure of success is? 12,500 season passes were sold for this season iirc, is half of those renewing going to fit their business model? I very much doubt it. Is renewal by all of the current ST holders the expectation? That's seems unlikely to happen.
     
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    If you win the war, win the land, will you give your people a capital?
     
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    Or, perhaps, they believe that more expensive day tickets will be their preferred option. It would be interesting to model comparisons to show the break-even points of the old and the new - also the lower ST sales against high (normal).
     
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  18. originallambrettaman

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    This Friday's cut off is for existing pass holders to secure their seats, as people in the West Upper can't currently secure theirs and are the most pissed off group, I doubt many of the 1,700 have signed up.
     
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  19. dennisboothstash

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    I thought they could move into available seats now though can't they?
     
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  20. Isa Kite

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    As part of a group of 10, mostly family, supporters who have sat together for years, I have reluctantly renewed because of the threat of losing my seat with the others. However many renewals take place, the majority are likely to be similarly reluctant. Renewal can in no way be taken as support for this scheme, but simply feels like something we've been forced into under duress.
     
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