Couple of thousand I'm lead to believe. Corporates have their own 'scheme' as it were and is separate to the new 'membership' scheme. The answer to your question could well include corporates if the club have simply stated 4500 have renewed...
If the club fail to tell any customer of a change to the amount payable by direct debit at least 14 days in advance, then the customer is entitled to ask their bank to claw the money back as the supplier (the club) has broken the direct debit rules. The club have no discretion over the rules, they are set by bankers.
There's 2,000 corporate members. I doubt they'd include them, they're not part of the membership scheme and if they'd only actually signed up 2,500 members I think they'd be looking to change it already.
Probably over 4,000 winners taken advantage then? I haven't signed up. Can't believe this has happened after 53 years of following City.
This might be easier to read, as they are important: "the Club" means The Hull City Association Football Club (Tigers) Limited. "the Stadium" means the Kingston Communications Stadium, Walton Street, Hull, HU3 6HU. "Ground Regulations" means those regulations issued by the Club from time to time that set out the terms and conditions upon which spectators are granted entry to the Stadium (copies of which are available on request). "Match" means any League, FA Cup or Football League Cup football match in which the Club participates and that takes place at the Stadium during the Season. "Home Match Ticket" means either a Season Ticket or a Match Day Ticket. "Season Card" means the card which allows entry into the Stadium for all home League games of the Club for the Season. "Season" means the football season for which the Season Ticket is valid. "Holder" means the registered owner of the Season Ticket. 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Sounds about right. 1 in 3 'winners' as it were. 2/3rds discontented. Well done City. And I still think they're going to have major problems with matchday pricing but I'm sure they know what they're doing...
Lets see what match day pricing is gonna be. Anything over £37 for me n the daughter and im out period.
Now that they can be easily read, it seems fairly obvious that they're the terms and conditions for last seasons passes and they haven't even got the new terms and conditions for the membership scheme on there yet.
They're obviously not confirmed yet, but I know they were looking at £20, £25 and £30 for the various zones.
We (5 people) sit in Upper West, we and a great many round us haven't and as far as I can see don't intend to sign up. OLM is correct I think most Upper West are very unhappy. There are also many concession fans,young and old in the stand so its double betrayal for them.
Yeah prob will be youd have thought.!! Gotta be a no no then for me . Cant go without taking the daughter and thats obvs gonna mean having to pay £60 for 2 of us. She'll de disapointed im pretty sure. Im sure we can find something else to do.She quite liked it at Rugby on Friday night so i ll take her there the odd game or 2.
If they go for that & the £30 is in the halfway line zones then Membership would mean a saving of £4.42 a game in the PL. £84 in total with a few additional benefits. If you missed three games a season it wouldn't be worth joining, you'd be out of pocket. I think they'll be a bit more.
I think the whole thing has been put together based on being in the Premier League and if we don't get there, it will be changed. Which is a good thing, as a load of temporary Premier League fans taking up the seats would merely have disguised the flaws with the scheme as it stands.
We sit in West Upper - we will save money by moving - but would rather stay where we are and pay the extra. We sit where we do because it gives a great view of both ends of the pitch. By the sounds of it we will be shoved in a corner somewhere or forced to move stand if we join the scheme as I suspect all the better seats in lower West will be taken up with corporates. Even if we go up and Upper west remains open we will be forced to move . So if I want to continue watching City - and I do, and neither the Allam's or the Strawberry faced morons who came up with this back of a *** packet idea will stop me - I am backed into a corner - perhaps literally. Gutted that the club I love and have watched regularly since 1974 should treat me and my fellow supporters in this manner.
