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Jamie Vardy

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  1. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    I'm ok with them winning the title but it'd funny as **** if they ballsed it up and spurs won it. I never used to like Spurs but I'm not arsed now.
     
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  2. The Omega Man

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    I hate people who use that rude word....
     
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  3. Edelman

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    Thats exactly what he does.
    The video from behind goal shows him doing just that.
     
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    no, you're making assumptions and i agree about the cheating. i don't understand why vardy put his foot where he put it if it wasn't an attempt to buy a penalty. but the contact would or could have been enough to provide that upward movement you questioned.

    did you ever watch gregor rioch get a penalty? he at least managed it without doing any cheating, but he was playing for it. he would get the ball outside of the penalty area and then dribble it as fast as he could manage directly into the penalty area. it was almost inevitable that someone would clip his ankle and he'd go down. i can't think of a reason why a player shouldn't dribble at top speed into the penalty area.
     
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  5. SydneyTiger14

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    The extended ban has nothing to do with the dive. It has to do with the abusive language directed at the ref following the red. As soon as I saw it live I knew he'd be in trouble for it. For every swear word you're essentially adding a game to your ban. He'll be out for 3 I suspect. Hugely selfish of him.
     
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  6. Ron Burguvdy

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    our wonderful 'barrel chested defender' ...
     
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  7. SydneyTiger14

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    I doubt they do. If they've shouted something like "**** sake!" at themselves after missing a goal, or if the ref pays a decision and the player shouts "****ing hell" then that's completely different to going up to the ref and saying "You're a ****ing ****" as Vardy did. Directed swearing at the ref is always going to extend a ban or lead to a red.
     
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  8. ElTigre

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    If a player doesn't go down when fouled that very often means he doesn't get the free kick. It's the same as when a player manages to hurdle a shocking challenge, very often there's no yellow card even given. Unfortunately refs need to see bodies hit the ground.
     
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  9. SydneyTiger14

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    Absolutely agree. Everyone talks about long bans for players who dive, how about instructing refs to actually pay fouls regardless of if the player goes to ground? Now, that doesn't mean blowing the whistle and stopping play, but a shout of "Advantage!" can have as positive an effect on players as blowing the whistle. If players know you'll pay fouls without them needing to go to ground, there's less need for diving.
     
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  10. tigerscanada

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    Not as smart as Georgie Best then !
    George: "Ref, can you send me off for what I'm thinking ?".
    Ref: " Why do you think that George ? You know I can't".
    George: "In that case ref, I think you're a ****".
     
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  11. SydneyTiger14

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    <laugh> Brilliant.
     
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  12. Old Tige

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    I know what you mean ST but in the heat of the moment?

    Surely to be selfish implies some advantage to himself. It was obviously not a rational decision and he must be more devastated than anyone.

    It certainly won't help Hollywood to Disneyfy the story and progress his beatification either. Unless he comes back and wins the league with a hat trick in the last game.

    Maybe they have already written the script.
     
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  13. SydneyTiger14

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    Selfish because his actions have now potentially cost his side. Getting himself suspended for diving is one thing, but then abusing the ref when every player under the sun knows the repercussions of this is even worse.
     
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  14. C'mon ref

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    Diving, faking fouls, cheating in general is so endemic in the game now I don't think ref's have much of a chance on keeping an eye on 22 players throughout a match to ensure a semblence of fair play. You only have to watch a few La Liga games to see some of the exteme's players go to to try and gain an advantage. Barcelona were notorious for having half a dozen players crowd round a ref and harrass him every time a decision went against them, I've thought for a long time that football in general has got too big for its boots.
     
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  15. originallambrettaman

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    I didn't think the ref had a bad game, he was getting dogs abuse from the Leicester fans for decisions he was getting right.
     
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  16. DMD

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    I can't remember the two individuals involved in the exchange, but a player complained to the ref, telling him he'd got a decision wrong.

    The ref replied that if he made as many mistakes in a season, as the player had made in that one game, they'd never let him ref again.
     
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  17. Evington

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    Yeah which goes to prove my theory (developed over 30 odd years living in Leicester) that Leicester fans are all twats :emoticon-0100-smile
     
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  18. PLT

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    But that shouldn't be the accepted norm. Yes refs need to start giving fouls even when a player doesn't go down but also stop kindly awarding penalties to obvious cheats. They don't need to be perfectly spotting contact between legs in the area, they just need to look at whether the attacker is actually brought down or is trying to go down. Any kind of attempt to be fouled or to go down and you book them.
     
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  19. petersaxton

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    I agree. He missed the foul on Huth but besides that he did OK.
     
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  20. petersaxton

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    Attackers see a goalkeeper dive for the ball and then run at their arms and fall over.
    Players run side by side and then, like Vardy, one runs in front of the other and there's obviously a collision but the ref seems to give the foul in favour of the player who caused the collision.
     
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