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moreinjuredthanowen said:
Costa has no pace. Maybe if we got him before Atletico did his hamstring ok but I felt the 3 behind made it for him last year and this year chelsea have really suffered.
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I feel like he's a lot more agile than your Benteke, Bony, Carroll type target man though. He might not have pace but he's more like Kane in that he'll hunt the ball down, work the channels and constantly look to make runs. The other target men I mentioned are much more static when awaiting the ball.
 
Lucaaas said:
I feel like he's a lot more agile than your Benteke, Bony, Carroll type target man though. He might not have pace but he's more like Kane in that he'll hunt the ball down, work the channels and constantly look to make runs. The other target men I mentioned are much more static when awaiting the ball.
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Yeah he's more like kane is a good way to describe it. I feel he is rather ****ed.
 
Lucaaas said:
I feel like he's a lot more agile than your Benteke, Bony, Carroll type target man though. He might not have pace but he's more like Kane in that he'll hunt the ball down, work the channels and constantly look to make runs. The other target men I mentioned are much more static when awaiting the ball.
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Kane is useless in the channels. Thats how we kept him quiet most of the game, the bloke has no idea what to do with the ball when he's not near the goal.
 
moreinjuredthanowen said:
Yeah he's more like kane is a good way to describe it. I feel he is rather ****ed.
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Physically or mentally? He's definitely ****ed in the head <laugh>

But to be honest I think when you look at his record under Ancelotti its clear he's still a top striker that knows where the goal is. So I don't think his injuries are as bad as they have been made out to be.
 
moreinjuredthanowen said:
So bascially my view is this:

LFC needs 4 home grown club players and 4 association players. we just do even if not in euope as the prem have their own rules on this.

so my keeps:

Mingolet is staying, get used to the idea. his contract is direct evidence on this.
Clyne will be RB (maybe) this is 1st association player
Gomez has not kicked a ball with klopp, nothing is certain. he is young enough that he can qualify has club trained player so has value
Lovern: frankly he's up klopp's street. i think he will stay.
Sahko? Not sure here. he likes the style but he's got errors in him
Matip: new signing
flanagan: new deal ergo staying. club trained player 1st over 21 CT.. makes up numbers

Obviously leaves 4th CB and LB open.

Wisdom: Should be club trained player... but klopp didn't recall. this one i feel theres guys in his ear so if wisdom doesn't have mighty preseason he'll be sold.. theres a lot of guys with opinions in klopp's ear.

not one other defender or keeper can be sure of a slot IMO

Midfield area:
Can: he'll be kept.
Milner: 2nd Association player. no other reason
lallana: I think klopp wil keep him 3rd association player. he gets klopps plan but can't execute consistently and just runs out of real steam but keeps going at a certain level
Ibe: will be kept as he is next (3rd) club trained. irrespective of anything else he's then got that value.
Coutinho: going to be kept co he's only one who can develop into top player if he attains consistency.
Grujic arriving.

The rest i think is totally open. (even henderson)

Room for 2 CMs, RW, ACM, LW.

Strikers:

Origi:
Firmino. included here rather than further back.

Room for 2 strikers.. i don't rate ings like some do. sturdige i think will go if offer is big and benteke has signaled we have failed the great man.

and thats it the rest totally open... we will keep one of ings, sturridge, henderson cos we need 4 association players. We need 4 club trained players and are struggling to get them through.

Klopps not getting 9 players in...

zeilinski, gotze.... thats some start IMO... milik will be another. maybe Hector

Mingolet
Clyne Lovern Matip Hector
Can Zielinski
Firmino Gotze Coutinho
Milik

Subs: GK? Sahko (won't be happy) Flanagan, Henderson, Grunjic, lallana, Ibe

Thats one player in each "line" signed by klopp... good enough? not sure... better than this year... dunno. I think a big preseason would solve more but gotze would be a big addition.
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Kevin Stewart - home grown and useful and hard working squad player.
Danny Ward - home grown 3rd keeper
Rossiter - Klopp spoke highly of him preinjury
Smith - Australian so not sure if he countsas home grown? Been with us for years. Decent squad player.
 
Flappy Flanagan (JK) said:
Kevin Stewart - home grown and useful and hard working squad player.
Danny Ward - home grown 3rd keeper
Rossiter - Klopp spoke highly of him preinjury
Smith - Australian so not sure if he countsas home grown? Been with us for years. Decent squad player.
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Stewart is only association player. I think he's very average really.
Rossiter would be club trained but.. again.. dunno.
Smith would count as club trained on think. Deffo 3 years served u21
Ward I'm not sure of. What age was he signed from Wrexham
 
jaffaklopp said:
Kane is useless in the channels. Thats how we kept him quiet most of the game, the bloke has no idea what to do with the ball when he's not near the goal.
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Not really, he doesn't have to be Messi on the ball to run the channels effectively. He makes so many runs he pulls defenders into areas they don't want to be creating space for others and making the defenders work hard. There's nothing a defender loves better than being up against a Benteke or Balotelli who gives them loads of time on the ball and doesn't bother chasing after anything, makes life easy.
 
Depends if an elbow in the chops is easy game.

Carroll is not easy to play. But hed rather pull off to full back than go up against cbs.
 
I think we should sign suso!!!!

Not being serious, but anyone who still has a soft dpot should chevk out the hatrick of worldies he put away for genoa on the weekend.....great to see him playing like we all knew he could.....dont know how toadd a link from a mobile
 
I hope he can keep it up.

I felt ac milan were only trying to try it on and sell on so if he can establish himself and Lucknow that'd be good.

He really never established a best position as at no 10 he wasn't up to it in prem so finding a place to develop was important but he also ran out on loan when showing
fight was needed.

Best two footed player I ever saw in our academy set up imo. He was really really good
 
moreinjuredthanowen said:
I hope he can keep it up.

I felt ac milan were only trying to try it on and sell on so if he can establish himself and Lucknow that'd be good.

He really never established a best position as at no 10 he wasn't up to it in prem so finding a place to develop was important but he also ran out on loan when showing
fight was needed.

Best two footed player I ever saw in our academy set up imo. He was really really good
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Great goals he scored. I hope this gived him the confidemce to perform as he can every week
 
Redbrynner said:
Great goals he scored. I hope this gived him the confidemce to perform as he can every week
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Just seen the goals, some tidy finishes to be fair although the 3rd is one where 99/100 he should be pulling it back and not shooting from there.... ridiculous angle!

Still gutted he never had more of a go with us. Must have been something more to it than just talent as the guy stood out constantly in the U21's and when he played, he was no worse than some of the more established players. He just never got a proper run and think was partly due to him not nailing down a position.

He had too much competition in that number 10 role and if he played wide he would always cut inside as he wasn't a winger and didn't have enough pace.

Still looked very composed on the ball, had an eye for a pass. Probably didn't help him not being physically as tough for the Prem though. Can see him having a decent career in mid table Italian / Spanish clubs for next few years though. He just needs to go play football solid for 2 years though as his development stalled with us when he got too good for the U21's.
 
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it will be interesting to see who is next linked. I do feel as though LFC's season and potential signings hinge on these next two games.
 
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