One Adam Johnson

[Fez]

Adam and Chedwyn are doing their best to prove the stereotype that footballers are just a bit thick. Loads of money but the morals an alley cat would be proud of. They both have daughters don't they? I suspect they wouldn't be too happy in about 13 years time if some wealthy ****wit like them touched up their offspring. Sadly they don't see anything wrong in their behaviour.

I agree with your sentiments totally, Charlie, but is it really a stick to hit footballers with. Is the broad-brush really deserved? Take a look at all walks of life, lads and lasses. Footballers make good press though, don't they.

As a matter of interest, how many footballers do you know personally?

 

[Fez]

Your response is the usual ****y bollocks I see.

So I didn't support price hikes for kids? So you were lieing? So no apology from you? Just the usual self justifying endless droning from you?

You're simply an odious old **** who loves the sound of his own voice.

You supported it, you droned on, you belittled folk when it was in print on the website and in print on the presses, you didn't take on board all the facts, you just droned in defence of your heroes, you are you.

Old ?? You daft sod, grow up , Snigger. No more from me, it's Good Friday, after all.

 

[tigerrev]

I agree with your sentiments totally, Charlie, but is it really a stick to hit footballers with. Is the broad-brush really deserved? Take a look at all walks of life, lads and lasses. Footballers make good press though, don't they.

As a matter of interest, how many footballers do you know personally?

Surely its about far more than this being a good press story? AJ has abused the privileged position his career put him in. He probably thought himself above the law and that his abuse of his victim was something he could get away with. Poor old AJ is going to spend 3 years in prison - probably no more and maybe some of that will be in an open prison - who knows? I'm sure he won't be near any head cases who would want too do harm to someone they considered a nonce.
After that his sentence will be over - he will no doubt still be set up for life in financial terms and by then the world will have moved on and will be full of newer wars, atrocities and scandals. But what about his victim? Will she be able to rebuild her life? If you've got sympathy with anyone in this case save it for the victim and not for the perpetrator.

 

[Fez]

Surely its about far more than this being a good press story? AJ has abused the privileged position his career put him in. He probably thought himself above the law and that his abuse of his victim was something he could get away with. Poor old AJ is going to spend 3 years in prison - probably no more and maybe some of that will be in an open prison - who knows? I'm sure he won't be near any head cases who would want too do harm to someone they considered a nonce.
After that his sentence will be over - he will no doubt still be set up for life in financial terms and by then the world will have moved on and will be full of newer wars, atrocities and scandals. But what about his victim? Will she be able to rebuild her life? If you've got sympathy with anyone in this case save it for the victim and not for the perpetrator.

I do not think of Johnson as 'poor-old'; as I have said earlier, right verdict, harsh sentence , but get on with it - no sympathy. What I don't understand is why Charlie wants to label all footballers the same, because they're not.
What about his victim? I agree, we should certainly spare her a thought. I am sure this whole sorry episode of her life will stay with her, but not a bad thing, maybe? It could have been far, far worse. He drew the line at pushing her into full sex, there was no rape, she got her signed shirt. I hope her parents (and others) have learnt a lesson as well. The right one is going to prison, I would honestly think that the worse part of this whole sorry story for the victim is what has taken place between her telling her parents and today.

 

[tigerrev]

I do not think of Johnson as 'poor-old'; as I have said earlier, right verdict, harsh sentence , but get on with it - no sympathy. What I don't understand is why Charlie wants to label all footballers the same, because they're not.
What about his victim? I agree, we should certainly spare her a thought. I am sure this whole sorry episode of her life will stay with her, but not a bad thing, maybe? It could have been far, far worse. He drew the line at pushing her into full sex, there was no rape, she got her signed shirt. I hope her parents (and others) have learnt a lesson as well. The right one is going to prison, I would honestly think that the worse part of this whole sorry story for the victim is what has taken place between her telling her parents and today.

All footballers are not the same - agree 100 %. Very few are *****philes, rapists, wife beaters etc. But you are way off beam to say that being abused and the memory of that abuse remaining with the victim for the rest of her life is maybe not a bad thing. Of course its a bad thing - it shouldn't have happened. You make it sound as though he did his victim a favour by not raping her and that he could expect something of a sexual nature in return for a signed shirt. As a society we have a responsibility to protect the vulnerable (i.e. children) from being abused and when abuse takes place to ensure that the perpetrator is brought to justice. Some people might think the sentence is harsh - others might see it as lenient (he won't do 6 years). The worse part of the story for the victim is not telling her parents - it is the fact that she was abused by someone she idolized and by all accounts is still suffering online abuse from some moronic idiots on Twitter (no doubt misguided Sunderland fans who are still in denial about AJ's guilt)

 

[Charlie1]

I agree with your sentiments totally, Charlie, but is it really a stick to hit footballers with. Is the broad-brush really deserved? Take a look at all walks of life, lads and lasses. Footballers make good press though, don't they.

As a matter of interest, how many footballers do you know personally?

They do indeed make good press. How many do I know? I was brought up around football teams from a young age. So I know a lot of footballers. I feel as qualified as anyone to speak about footballers in general given my upbringing within the game.

 

[Fez]

All footballers are not the same - agree 100 %. Very few are *****philes, rapists, wife beaters etc. But you are way off beam to say that being abused and the memory of that abuse remaining with the victim for the rest of her life is maybe not a bad thing. Of course its a bad thing - it shouldn't have happened. You make it sound as though he did his victim a favour by not raping her and that he could expect something of a sexual nature in return for a signed shirt. As a society we have a responsibility to protect the vulnerable (i.e. children) from being abused and when abuse takes place to ensure that the perpetrator is brought to justice. Some people might think the sentence is harsh - others might see it as lenient (he won't do 6 years). The worse part of the story for the victim is not telling her parents - it is the fact that she was abused by someone she idolized and by all accounts is still suffering online abuse from some moronic idiots on Twitter (no doubt misguided Sunderland fans who are still in denial about AJ's guilt)

I did say that it was maybe not a bad thing, although I never thought it necessary to explain the detail. My point is that this unfortunate episode, some of her making, might give her better level in life. I'm sure she will sue, good luck to her, he deserves it; but not all lads are the same.

 

[Charlie1]

I do not think of Johnson as 'poor-old'; as I have said earlier, right verdict, harsh sentence , but get on with it - no sympathy. What I don't understand is why Charlie wants to label all footballers the same, because they're not.
What about his victim? I agree, we should certainly spare her a thought. I am sure this whole sorry episode of her life will stay with her, but not a bad thing, maybe? It could have been far, far worse. He drew the line at pushing her into full sex, there was no rape, she got her signed shirt. I hope her parents (and others) have learnt a lesson as well. The right one is going to prison, I would honestly think that the worse part of this whole sorry story for the victim is what has taken place between her telling her parents and today.

I said the two of them aren't helping disprove the idea that people think footballers are a bit thick. They aren't. I never said I agree that most footballers are a bit thick.

 

[Fez]

I said the two of them aren't helping disprove the idea that people think footballers are a bit thick. They aren't. I never said I agree that most footballers are a bit thick.

Okay, it just seems you get the hump about pro-footballers

 

[BrAdY]

Adam Johnson gets 6 years! But that female teacher assistant who slept with an 15 year old over 50 times gets community service! Equality

bit of a disgrace tbh

 

[Happy Tiger]

You supported it, you droned on, you belittled folk when it was in print on the website and in print on the presses, you didn't take on board all the facts, you just droned in defence of your heroes, you are you.

Old ?? You daft sod, grow up , Snigger. No more from me, it's Good Friday, after all.

Still not apologising for your lie about me stating I supported higher prices for kids?

My comments were almost all "wait til the full facts are revealed, and stop been **** to OLM".

Yet you still persist with your delusional ****e and lies.

 

[Charlie1]

Okay, it just seems you get the hump about pro-footballers

I don't think I've got the hump about pro footballers more than anyone else.

 

[balkan tiger]

Still not apologising for your lie about me stating I supported higher prices for kids?

My comments were almost all "wait til the full facts are revealed, and stop been **** to OLM".

Yet you still persist with your delusional ****e and lies.

The facts were revealed, on the clubs own website. It clearly showed one seat one price NO discount for OAP's or kids.

Due to the uproar the club have decided to make a few tweaks ( think that was OLM's word ) It will be interesting to see how two years work can be tweaked to make it palatable.

Edit. we should take this to one of the membership threads rather than disrupt this one.

 

[dennisboothstash]

The facts were revealed, on the clubs own website. It clearly showed one seat one price NO discount for OAP's or kids.

Due to the uproar the club have decided to make a few tweaks ( think that was OLM's word ) It will be interesting to see how two years work can be tweaked to make it palatable.

Edit. we should take this to one of the membership threads rather than disrupt this one.

You should take it to Linnet Car Park

 

[Happy Tiger]

The facts were revealed, on the clubs own website. It clearly showed one seat one price NO discount for OAP's or kids.

Due to the uproar the club have decided to make a few tweaks ( think that was OLM's word ) It will be interesting to see how two years work can be tweaked to make it palatable.

Edit. we should take this to one of the membership threads rather than disrupt this one.

Could you sign up then? No? That's because it wasn't finalised.

 

[originallambrettaman]

Could you sign up then? No? That's because it wasn't finalised.

It is going to be roughly as already announced, the tweaking currently going on is not going to fundamentally change what's already out there.

 

[balkan tiger]

Could you sign up then? No? That's because it wasn't finalised.

I must have missed the bit where it said this is a proposal / consultation document and your comments are welcome.

 

[tigerrev]

I did say that it was maybe not a bad thing, although I never thought it necessary to explain the detail. My point is that this unfortunate episode, some of her making, might give her better level in life. I'm sure she will sue, good luck to her, he deserves it; but not all lads are the same.

Sorry, but you are still making it sound as if the child - for that is what she is - is partially to blame for the abuse she suffered. The blame in this case lies 100% with AJ. He is the (supposedly) responsible adult - and as the judge said, he groomed this girl for his own sexual gratification. How can that be "some of her making"? If we are going to say a child who is groomed by and adult is to blame in any way shape or form for being groomed, then we are going down a very sorry road indeed.

 

[FILEYseadog]

AJ hunted the young girl down like an animal hunts its prey

She had just turned 15.

A more sensible girl would have informed her parents

In my opinion she was immature for her age...

He deserved all he got.

 

[Fez]

Still not apologising for your lie about me stating I supported higher prices for kids?

My comments were almost all "wait til the full facts are revealed, and stop been **** to OLM".

Yet you still persist with your delusional ****e and lies.

You should call yourself Forgetful Tiger, or Backpedalling Tiger or even just Happy To Lie Through Your Teeth Tiger.

This was you very happy with taking the money from children to reduce your own ticket.

Happy Tiger,Mar 16, 2016:
Well I like it. It'll save me money. As it will my mates.
Of course I'm not one of those arseholes who misused child tickets to get in. That's who should be the object of anyone's snarling.
Yes it'll cost some honest people more but on balance it favours the majority.
Well played Hull City AFC. Now just try being as ****ing efficient on the pitch.

What part of that did I misunderstand?

Obadiah gave you a chance to change your stance:

Obadiah,Mar 16, 2016:
What sort of man celebrates because a nine year old subsidises his ticket? Genuine question.

You replied:

Happy Tiger,Mar 16, 2016:
Wrong question. What sort of man sticks his fingers up to other supporters by using a child's ticket to get in?

He tried again (because it was the right question):

Obadiah,Mar 16, 2016:
It was the right question. You said you were happy to have your ticket reduced. The bulk of that reduction will be paid by children.

and then later, more nonsense from you ...

Happy Tiger,Mar 16, 2016:
1. We don't have all the details yet. Stop with the hysterics FFS.
2. Person makes claim about how this is a knife in the back to them (see 1). Usual suspects sympathise and throw the usual bile at the club.
3. Person states for them it's good news and welcome. Usual suspects (from 2) throw usual accusations at them.
You seriously think consulting fans is a good idea?
Realistically you will mostly read complaints, some genuine, some not so genuine but a convenient stick to hit the club with.
This will impact positively on the good old silent majority who won't bang on about because they get it, and don't mind it.
I swear some of you must wake up hoping to hear something you can be offended by or angry at. It's a shame you can't wait til you have all the facts.
Did we find out if Burns was told or allowed to release what he did last night?

It was clear to you by now that your loudmouthed stance was a tad unpopular - it still is.

No lies from me, Snigger.