Off Topic Global Warming!

[Stroller]

Yeah, that's what makes me laugh when the "Greens" go on bleating about saving the planet.

When it is actually all about saving mankind; but if that was their main message, that would sound selfish, and not "Green" !!!

****ing Greens! What we really need is a political party that advocates the demise of mankind.

 

[sb_73]

That's the irony Sooper, the planet will survive and recover when man has vanished.

It is mankind that will make living intolerable for mankind; the planet will survive it and whatever comes afterwards.

Yep, seems like the earth is a self regulating mechanism, allows its parasites to eat themselves.

 

[factamondo]

Yep, seems like the earth is a self regulating mechanism, allows its parasites to eat themselves.

Traore must have started by now then!

 

[kiwiqpr]

winters on the way here
bring on a bit of warming I say

 

[rangercol]

Bloody hell, this is a cheerful thread!!

 

[GoldhawkRoad]

...and I thought this was a thread about men's thermal underpants

 

[TWGWTDT]

Yeah, that's what makes me laugh when the "Greens" go on bleating about saving the planet.

When it is actually all about saving mankind; but if that was their main message, that would sound selfish, and not "Green" !!!

Imagine banners with "SAVE ME", not quite the same as "SAVE OUR PLANET"

100% on the money
No one in the western world should be allowed to be green IMO
Yes it's awareness but they are still a part of the problem ... What they are really saying you are 100% right
Look at me I am living in a better way than you so save me they carefully recycle everything and make sure everyone knows that around them before passing on their rubbish to the councils eg in Brighton who have spent their refuse budget by July on an average year so are forced to landfill everything into the Sussex Downs anyway
Vegans the same IMO
Look at me I eat vegan food
But their rules change and their quest for perfect vegan foods never ends
Most I know can't grow anything for a toffee and the ones that do forget about the animals who live alongside their crops ... They cannot discount animal dna at anytime ... A slug trail on a lettuce leaf for example
IMO it's a mental illness and again a lifestyle choice which is saying look at me I'm natural and don't trust the big bad world
Now of course you can grow perfect vegan food in laboratory conditions but that involves science .... Usually the first thing your typical green vegan dismisses

Lots of my friends are both and hate me when I say fancy a macdonalds ?
There are strict monitored rules about food you are statistically better off buying food there than you would be at your local butchers IMO

Check out how much Vegan and veggie food costs ? Check out the word organic

The planet creates its own poisons to man it will survive without us idiots

 

[KPDHoopster]

lol, DT, you certainly have a way with words !!

I am reading this book atm, about global macro-economic trends.

One of the fascinating points raised is, that currently most countries have signed up to reducing carbon emissions by 50% by 2050.

For that to be achieved, the world can only consume a certain amount of fossil fuels during that time, and current reserves total more than 3.5 times that amount; and exploration still being carried out, for more fossil fuels.

So if man is to survive on this planet, there is absolutely no way, we can ever run out of fossil fuels. Man would die from inhospitable weather, before oil/gas runs out.

Which is why Saudi Arabia is refusing production cuts, because they know an alternative fuel will be discovered before they pump all their oil out, leaving any remaining in the ground, completely worthless. Or we wont be around to use their oil, again, leaving any remaining in the ground, completely worthless.

 

[Stroller]

100% on the money
No one in the western world should be allowed to be green IMO
Yes it's awareness but they are still a part of the problem ... What they are really saying you are 100% right
Look at me I am living in a better way than you so save me they carefully recycle everything and make sure everyone knows that around them before passing on their rubbish to the councils eg in Brighton who have spent their refuse budget by July on an average year so are forced to landfill everything into the Sussex Downs anyway
Vegans the same IMO
Look at me I eat vegan food
But their rules change and their quest for perfect vegan foods never ends
Most I know can't grow anything for a toffee and the ones that do forget about the animals who live alongside their crops ... They cannot discount animal dna at anytime ... A slug trail on a lettuce leaf for example
IMO it's a mental illness and again a lifestyle choice which is saying look at me I'm natural and don't trust the big bad world
Now of course you can grow perfect vegan food in laboratory conditions but that involves science .... Usually the first thing your typical green vegan dismisses

Lots of my friends are both and hate me when I say fancy a macdonalds ?
There are strict monitored rules about food you are statistically better off buying food there than you would be at your local butchers IMO

Check out how much Vegan and veggie food costs ? Check out the word organic

The planet creates its own poisons to man it will survive without us idiots

Thank you Jeremy Clarkson.

 

[Didley Squat]

It's very interesting Aussie. I am undergoing a 24 hour blood pressure test at the request of my GP as we speak/write. Had an interesting health check a month ago which has led to some small changes in habits. Apart from a disastrous but great fun weekend in the company of knaves and rogues, I have been very good at avoiding salt, reducing booze (none for at least 2 days a week, a glass of wine rather than the usual 3), eating loads of fruit instead of bread and biscuits, cooking fresh food, drinking lots of water. I haven't drunk fizzy pop, fruit juices or smoothies, all heavily loaded with sugar, for years since I had kidney stones and my consultant advised best to avoid - along with spirits, sadly, I used to like a single malt.

Net result I have lost half a stone, all from the gut, without trying to and I'm feeling pretty good. By looking at labels you realise how dodgy all pre prepared food is, even packaged sandwiches. Takeaways/ fast food now scare me. Still relaxed enough for decent meals out, but I have developed a sensitivity to salt which tells me restaurants, even good ones, use far too much of it.

But it's all a bit **** really. You spend years working hard and bringing up kids with the promise of continuous fine dining accompanied by exquisite wines to look forward to, get within touching distance of the promised land and your body won't let you do it.

Hope it all goes well, sb. There are many types of blood pressure tablets. Mine have a Diuretic in them which cause the kidneys to remove more sodium and water from the body, which helps to relax the blood vessel walls, thereby lowering blood pressure. Apparently my kidneys were were in poor state with the prognosis being that I had high blood pressure for quite some time but it had not been picked up.

I was pissing all the time and when checked, the doctor had me carrying a large plastic bottle to gauge how much over a 24 hour period. I managed 24 pisses in 24 hours. Quite a feat really. Anyway, as the specialist said, people can go through life not knowing that they have high blood pressure and the damaged to your kidneys can be immense. It can and will then affect your eyes and other organs as he mentioned how bad some patients cases were.

I work on the theory that every ten years, we need to change and adapt our lifestyle in readiness for the next stage of our life.
If we turn a blind eye to it, there will be a very good chance we won't survive it. If we adapt, we get through the next stage.
Sounds boring and as you say, the reward that we feel entitled to after years of hardwork and raising a family, seems we are cheated.
Bit like supporting Queens Park Rangers ................ we're there for the hard times, living in hope of finally making to the promise land and sharing in some glory and then we get rolled over by another false promise or alike.

 

[factamondo]

Why don't you drink cranberry juice!

 

[sb_73]

Hope it all goes well, sb. There are many types of blood pressure tablets. Mine have a Diuretic in them which cause the kidneys to remove more sodium and water from the body, which helps to relax the blood vessel walls, thereby lowering blood pressure. Apparently my kidneys were were in poor state with the prognosis being that I had high blood pressure for quite some time but it had not been picked up.

I was pissing all the time and when checked, the doctor had me carrying a large plastic bottle to gauge how much over a 24 hour period. I managed 24 pisses in 24 hours. Quite a feat really. Anyway, as the specialist said, people can go through life not knowing that they have high blood pressure and the damaged to your kidneys can be immense. It can and will then affect your eyes and other organs as he mentioned how bad some patients cases were.

I work on the theory that every ten years, we need to change and adapt our lifestyle in readiness for the next stage of our life.
If we turn a blind eye to it, there will be a very good chance we won't survive it. If we adapt, we get through the next stage.
Sounds boring and as you say, the reward that we feel entitled to after years of hardwork and raising a family, seems we are cheated.
Bit like supporting Queens Park Rangers ................ we're there for the hard times, living in hope of finally making to the promise land and sharing in some glory and then we get rolled over by another false promise or alike.

Saw a specialist last night, seems I am in the same boat Aussie, medication starting this week, due to damaged kidneys from stones........such is life, mustn't grumble etc. Blood pressure not too bad, but worth getting down a notch or two. Only upsides as far as I can tell. One of the benefits is a reduced risk of vascular dementia (loads of undetected mini strokes doing your brain in), and given that dementia is just about my greatest fear (much more than cancer) I wish I had been on them since birth.

Why don't you drink cranberry juice!

Because it has more sugar in it than Coca Cola (full fat). Eating a handful of cranberries is much better.

Years ago young Stainsey posted on here about a health issue (much more serious that mine) and urged us all to look after ourselves. Without wishing to be preachy, I'd do the same. If you are about my age (50+) you should get a letter from your GP at some stage inviting you to a mid life heart health check. Don't be a bloke, go. I sat on my letter for six months. What's the worst that can happen? You get a reassuring 'you are in good nick' or get a few pills which will help you avoid dialysis or an amputation due to diabetes. Which, to be selfish, are ****ing expensive things for us taxpayers to fund.

 

[Didley Squat]

Why don't you drink cranberry juice!

Yes, l so have some at times but more acute cases require medicines and possibly a change in lifestyle ... cheers.