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  1. Ron

    Ron Well-Known Member
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    One thing is for sure smokey. At least one of those will be cruelly exposed. Hopefully one emerges as as true champion. Hopefully Joshua but I'm not holding my breath after that last fight.

    Klitschko will develop an injury and defer the return with Fury and then retire. I just have a feeling Fury will say **** this, I've achieved my goal, chuck in the belts and let the rest squabble over them. If my new crystal ball gets me promoted in Cyc's comp next week I might have a bet on those predictions.
     
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    Bloody catch weights. Either go up to someone's weight and do it properly or go home.

    Weight draining your opponent is a massive advantage and should not happen.

    It used to annoy me when Pacqauio and Roach did this, if I remember correctly they had Cotto boil down to a couple of pound below the welterweight limit, and Cotto was a massive Welter!

    Accept the challenge or shut up in my opinion.

    On another note, another great win for BJS last night. That's two very good wins on his CV now! Not enough power to trouble the very elite in my opinion but he could win a title. A rematch with Eubank may happen at some point.
     
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    You're right Toppy, BJS is probably a little below some others, but his win over Andy Lee gave him the WBO World Title.
     
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    I forgot they were fighting for that!
     
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    While searching for a possible link to the WBO Super Flyweight Title bout between the champion Naoya Inoue, known as the Monster, and Warlito Parrenas, to be fought in Japan today, I came across some interesting stats on past champions of all divisions. The WBA have released what they call their Super Belt Champions. It's a list of their greatest fighters. I'll list them below and invite comment if desired.

    HEAVYWEIGHT. MUHAMMAD ALI.

    CRUISERWEIGHT. EVANDER HOLYFIELD.

    LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT. VIRGIL HILL.

    SUPER MIDDLEWEIGHT. SUGAR RAY LEONARD.

    MIDDLEWEIGHT. CARLOS MONZON.

    SUPER WELTERWEIGHT. THOMAS HEARNS.

    WELTERWEIGHT. SUGAR RAY ROBINSON.

    SUPER LIGHTWEIGHT. ANTONIO CERVANTES.

    LIGHTWEIGHT. ROBERTO DURAN.

    SUPER FEATHERWEIGHT. GABRIEL ELORDE.

    FEATHERWEIGHT. USEBIO PEDROZA.

    SUPER BANTAMWEIGHT. WILFREDO GOMEZ.

    BANTAMWEIGHT. EDER JOFRE.

    SUPER FLYWEIGHT. KHAOSAI. GALAXY.

    FLYWEIGHT. PASCUAL PEREZ.

    LIGHT FLYWEIGHT. YOKO GUSHIKEN.

    MINIMUMWEIGHT. LEO GAMEZ.


     
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  6. Ron

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    I don't know a lot of those but I would question Roberto Duran. I saw him give up in one fight, out of frustration I believe
     
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    Bloody hell Ron, you'd question Roberto Duran, one of the greatest fighters that has ever graced this planet, you must be hard to please
     
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    Exactly smokey, he was a street fighter and couldn't handle class
     
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    And Muhammed Ali was a great fighter who had no class!!
     
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    <laugh>
     
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    Some of the fighters mentioned were probably not the best of all time, but I suppose they had to select people who'd won their belt.
     
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    Exactly. There will have been some better fighters around at the same time at the same weight who maybe just never held the WBA version of the belt
     
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    Just had a look at that defeat I referred to smokey. I was doing him an injustice as that fight was at welterweight. He moved up from lightweight to fight SRL and beat him and then got humiliated in the return (apparently not fully prepared for the fight). Can't comment on him as a lightweight but imagine he must have been a bull of a fighter there.
     
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    Pepp above Pedroza too I suppose.
     
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    Every single person who posts on here could do their all time list and I'd be amazed if there were any two lists exactly the same. Boxing is so subjective and everyone has certain things they prefer in fights/fighters
     
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    Unless it's the heavyweight division in which case every one would agree it's Tyson Fury
     
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    The unbeaten and undisputed champion of the world Mr Tyson Fury in fact :)
     
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    I'm a Fury fan, but I wouldn't be writing off Wilder just yet.

    And the title is disputed. Fury does not hold all the belts, although he is the lineal champion.
     
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    Of all time???
     
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    Naoya "The Monster" Inoue continues on his merry way. Nine fights, nine wins. Four World Title fights, four wins. Tonight in Japan he gave himself an early mark when he bombed out his Philippine challenger Warlito Parrenas in just two rounds. Inoue made just one defence of the WBC Light Flyweight Title he snatched from the admired Adrian Hernandez, before vacating the belt. He then jumped two divisions to take on one of the best Super Flyweights of the modern era, Omar Narvaez, a man who'd only lost two of his twenty nine World Title fights. The Monster smashed the old war horse in two. Today's fight against Parrenas was Inoue's first defence of that title. He's something special.
     
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