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Discussion in 'Chelsea' started by armchairblue, Dec 14, 2015.

  1. Blueman

    Blueman Well-Known Member

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    I think Jose is up against a few bad apples who are spreading poison throughout the squad. Get rid I say.
     
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  2. D.G.C.

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    armchair, Chelsea beat a 9 man Arsenal, ANYBODY could beat a 9 man Arsenal.
     
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  3. armchairblue

    armchairblue Well-Known Member

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    Well its about time you did have a better season than us
    i can't remember the last time you did.... you should make the
    most of this season,cos it won't last.
     
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  4. Stan

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    To be fair they had a better season than you in 2013/14. They finished in the CL places and won the FA Cup.
     
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  5. armchairblue

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    all that mattered was the result.......
     
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  6. armchairblue

    armchairblue Well-Known Member

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    my mistake..... bloody dementia
     
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  7. CFC: Champs £launderx17

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    His budget at Inter's was smaller than Arsenal's 2009/10. Who won the Champions League with Eto on the wing Milito. Pandev and ageing Zanetti??

    And got Unaiao de Lieira, a club the size of Orient, into CL spots,

    I think his methods work best the fewer the egos. He's be a great Sunday league coach ;)
     
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  8. BrunelGooner

    BrunelGooner Well-Known Member

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    That's a fair reply back, to be honest. <ok>

    All WUMmery aside, I have no doubt that he is a very, very good manager because the amount of silverware that he's won at the age of 52 is incredible and no-one can take that away from him, but I still feel like he's always had everything set-up perfectly for him, in pretty much the best circumstances, at almost every club he's been at.

    In addition to this, I also maintain my view that he needs to be able to stay at a club long-term because jumping from club to club every few years doesn't provide enough insight as to whether he is capable of building and prolonging a successful squad over a substantial amount of time. I think we have to agree to disagree about his tenure at Real Madrid, as well. He did well in 1 of the 3 seasons he was there and when you have literally everything you could possibly wish for at a club, like he did at Madrid, he didn't achieve as much as he should have. Once again though, I'd argue he wasn't there long enough to form a genuine assessment because when things went sour, he left the club.

    I agree that not everything can be put on him for your team's indifferent form and this is the first time that he's been in a situation as tricky as this, but as the manager, he does have to take the large portion of responsibility because the buck stops with him. His self-centred & arrogant comments in the media, public criticism of certain players and perhaps some of his in-game management decisions have to be questioned.
     
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  9. BrunelGooner

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    First of all, that statement is incorrect. I checked the transfers brought in for both clubs. We spent £10m that season on Vermaelen and brought in a few players on frees. Inter Milan had brought in Motta, Lucio, Eto'o, Pandev, Sneijder & Milito. It's not even close as to who spent more.

    Second of all, even if that was true (which I've proven it wasn't), it's a bit of a disingenuous comparison. If you have already have a squad at its peak and your team is breeding success for multiple years running, there is less incentive to spend big because the players within the squad have already shown that they are capable of winning.
     
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  10. CFC: Champs £launderx17

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    Transfers are only part of a club's budget, you need to include wages too.

    You have contradicted yourself saying Mourinho brought in lots of players but that he already had a winning squad.

    Which one is true?

    Let me correct you.

    In the second season he rebuilt Inter's side.

    The first season he won the league largely with Mancini's iteration
     
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  11. BrunelGooner

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    Even if you include wages, ours was still lower than Inter's that season. So your statement was still wrong. You're not willing to admit to your error, but I won't press you on it.

    The two aren't mutually exclusive. You can still have a winning squad whilst adding more players. That's exactly what happened with his Inter squad after he took over from Mancini. But I was looking at it hypothetically. I didn't say that teams will definitely not buy more players, I said there is less of an incentive to do so. Looking at the most continuously successful teams, you will find this to be the case.
     
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  12. Star of David Bardsley

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    Probably not given the time it was posted.
     
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  13. Stan

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    Details!
     
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  14. MIAMI_FOX

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    Anyway, back to Leicester.... :emoticon-0105-wink:
     
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