Bruce out - Revote

[tigerscanada]

I could have a field day with that reply but I cannot be arsed.
Just one question,
Who was the manager of Hull City the first time we got relegated from the Premier League and who recruited that manager ?

Just 3 questions, if you can be arsed.
1) Do we have the strongest squad in our league this season ? ( cost wise and/or talent wise - your pick).
2) How many games have we dominated this season ?
3) Given the points we have, and our position in the league, is it due to the tactical ability of our manager, luck or incompetent opposition ?

In your own time...

 

[Trumpton Tiger.]

Just 3 questions, if you can be arsed.
1) Do we have the strongest squad in our league this season ? ( cost wise and/or talent wise - your pick).
2) How many games have we dominated this season ?
3) Given the points we have, and our position in the league, is it due to the tactical ability of our manager, luck or incompetent opposition ?

In your own time...

1. Yes, when all fully fit. Although If I were the manager ( which I'm not) I would prefer a forward of our own leading the line and not one learning his trade on loan from another club. But you don't always get what you want. Because we have the strongest squad on paper we are also the team to beat and strong on paper isn't always the strongest on the pitch. The days when all eleven first choice players play to 100% of their ability and every thing goes our way are very far and few between for every club in the land.
2. The only game I think we have been beaten football wise this season was Derby at home and perhaps for 45 mins at Leeds.
3. We are four points off top spot, a position Hull City as a club and as fans are not exactly familiar with at this level at this time of the season as it hasn't happened very often in our 111 year history. Only Derby have beaten us by a two goal margin, the games at Brighton, Charlton and Leeds could have gone either way and even ended as draws. No-one expects us to win every game, especially taking into consideration the injuries to key players.
Just because we came down from the Premier League last season doesn't mean we will automatically roll every team over and run away with the title. It could quite easily have gone the other way as many other relegated Premier League clubs have found out. Dave Burns tipped us for relegation before a ball was kicked.
The stability at the club is down mainly to the manager, as is the clubs position in the league, and yes mistakes are often made which are quickly highlighted by people with hindsight. Unfortunately the manager doesn't posses hindsight when making decisions.
....
A question for you.
Which club do you support ?

 

[tigerscanada]

1. Yes, when all fully fit. Although If I were the manager ( which I'm not) I would prefer a forward of our own leading the line and not one learning his trade on loan from another club. But you don't always get what you want. Because we have the strongest squad on paper we are also the team to beat and strong on paper isn't always the strongest on the pitch. The days when all eleven first choice players play to 100% of their ability and every thing goes our way are very far and few between for every club in the land.
2. The only game I think we have been beaten football wise this season was Derby at home and perhaps for 45 mins at Leeds.
3. We are four points off top spot, a position Hull City as a club and as fans are not exactly familiar with at this level at this time of the season as it hasn't happened very often in our 111 year history. Only Derby have beaten us by a two goal margin, the games at Brighton, Charlton and Leeds could have gone either way and even ended as draws. No-one expects us to win every game, especially taking into consideration the injuries to key players.
Just because we came down from the Premier League last season doesn't mean we will automatically roll every team over and run away with the title. It could quite easily have gone the other way as many other relegated Premier League clubs have found out. Dave Burns tipped us for relegation before a ball was kicked.
The stability at the club is down mainly to the manager, as is the clubs position in the league, and yes mistakes are often made which are quickly highlighted by people with hindsight. Unfortunately the manager doesn't posses hindsight when making decisions.
....
A question for you.
Which club do you support ?

Some reasonable points there. But the manager should be harnessing the talent he has at his disposal much better, in my opinion, despite the injuries we have experienced.

It really should be obvious who I support, perhaps I should have chosen "HullCity AFCCanada" as my handle, but the whole name change **** hadn't started when I picked it.
Since the late Carter era btw. Black & Amber blood and all that. Season ticket holder, but obviously don't see them live as often as I wish to...although through today's technology, I listen to audio commentaries live every match (The Burns & Swanny comedy show), and when not live on TV here (we get a few games now we're not in the top league), a couple of days later the full game on TigerPlayer.

 

[Brucebones]

As it often didn't work for us, it shouldn't be working for the teams we play against.

Well it did in some games in the PL & it's not working for most teams we're playing against this season which is why we are where we are!

 

[Steven Toast]

Well it did in some games in the PL & it's not working for most teams we're playing against this season which is why we are where we are!

So do you think it's a good thing that this squad are capable of performances like Boro and Cardiff, but are also capable of Derby, Charlton and Leeds?

 

[Brucebones]

So do you think it's a good thing that this squad are capable of performances like Boro and Cardiff, but are also capable of Derby, Charlton and Leeds?

It's not perfect, no, we are not perfect, but we are currently 3rd in the division, we could be higher or lower. Some other teams would love to be where we are right now, QPR being one of them!
There are a lot of good points on this thread, both for & against, except most of Hat's, there is some sense in the odd one.
But right now we're well in the mix, the top 5 are breaking away & unless we slide alarmingly away over Christmas & New Year then SB will be leading us on until the end of the season! There will be highs & lows, always are but I think we have enough to go up automatically!

 

[Brucebones]

This sums up my thoughts on City right now, although this is based on limited views watching City of late, from Mike Phelan!

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[tigerscanada]

This sums up my thoughts on City right now, although this is based on limited views watching City of late, from Mike Phelan!

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Haven't watched the game yet, but the Swanny & Burnsy show was not very complimentary of our performance. Credit to Phelan for being reasonably honest.
We need to crank it up a couple of notches on Wednesday, and more for the 4 gamestherafter up and including Jan 1st QPR match. It's a great opportunity to make a mark given the fixtures involving the major contenders in that time frame.
Make it happen Brucy, Phelan and the lads. It'd be nice to have a 2 or 3 point lead in the league before the Brighton cup game.

 

[originallambrettaman]

The only game I think we have been beaten football wise this season was Derby at home and perhaps for 45 mins at Leeds.

Not doing always then?

We were absolutely dire at Charlton and Brighton, even in some games we won (like MK Dons) we were crap.

 

[hullcitykid]

As a Club I feel like we are like the losing Team in The Apprentice, and we are sat in the dark greasy cafe , discussing what went wrong

 

[Irememberwaggy]

75% of teams who make the playoffs fail to get promotion.

That seems obvious but people seem strangely relaxed about finishing in the playoffs as if we'll just easily win them. I wonder if people realise it isn't a nice little fairytale every time like 2008 was.

Also unlike 2008, we aren't a small club punching above our weight in this division. We're a PL yo-yo club whose sole aim is promotion. If we finish in the playoffs and don't go up it'll be a total failure. With our squad and budget there's no excuse if that happens.

By all means have blind faith in Bruce, but to say we're on track for promotion when we're outside the top 2 is just daft.

So are you saying that only the top two are on track for promotion - seriously? That's "just daft"! I suggest you look at a few Championship tables from previous years at this time of year & then retract that statement! At this stage of the season anyone in the top 8 or 9 is well placed for promotion. But if you then take into account our squad strength and managerial experience then we are clearly better placed than most.

 

[PLT]

So are you saying that only the top two are on track for promotion - seriously? That's "just daft"! I suggest you look at a few Championship tables from previous years at this time of year & then retract that statement! At this stage of the season anyone in the top 8 or 9 is well placed for promotion. But if you then take into account our squad strength and managerial experience then we are clearly better placed than most.

We've had the squad and manager all season and it's took us to third. If we finish there we'll have a 1 in 4 chance of promotion in the playoffs, even ignoring Bojack's point about us consistently messing up the big games.

 

[The FRENCH TICKLER]

I wonder if any of the Bruce Out Nee Naw crew will be protesting @ the Reading game tonight ? They wont need much room.

 

[originallambrettaman]

I wonder if any of the Bruce Out Nee Naw crew will be protesting @ the Reading game tonight ? They wont need much room.

Sadly, they'll have plenty of room, there'll only be about 15k again.

 

[The FRENCH TICKLER]

Sadly, they'll have plenty of room, there'll only be about 15k again.

Whoosh.

I refer to the few who want SB out.

As for the crowd figure, 15k is not that bad all things considered.

 

[originallambrettaman]

Whoosh.

I refer to the few who want SB out.

I knew exactly what you meant, I'm not Swanland's village idiot...

 

[The FRENCH TICKLER]

I knew exactly what you meant, I'm not Swanland's village idiot...

We don't have one,. You are busy enough elsewhere though.

 

[Steven Toast]

I wonder if any of the Bruce Out Nee Naw crew will be protesting @ the Reading game tonight ? They wont need much room.

Why would there be protests? Why can't people want a different manager for the sake of good football and a stronger chance at winning promotion? Heaven forbid you won't ever become annoyed at how we play. You seem too easily pleased.

 

[hullcitykid]

Moyes is still unemployed , waiting for the right Club

He would be a real coup for us

 

[The FRENCH TICKLER]

Why would there be protests? Why can't people want a different manager for the sake of good football and a stronger chance at winning promotion? Heaven forbid you won't ever become annoyed at how we play. You seem too easily pleased.

Simple answer. The grass is not always greener. Modern day football fans always blame the manager when things go wrong or slightly wrong.

Steve Bruce has held this club together since PL relegation. We don't need a new manager. END OF.

The very few who think we do really are not true Hull City fans. Be careful what you wish for is another good piece of advice.