Off Topic Paris (again)

When Christians, Atheists and Jews are offended there are no outbreak of violence against Muslims, and attacks on Muslim country embassies - yet the Muslims break out in violence at the mere mention of a burned Koran or Picture? What is fundamentally wrong with this religion that it resorts to violence so quickly?

 

It has nothing to do with race

Being a muslim is a choice.

 

My thoughts and prayers go out to the victims of this cowardly, sensless attack. Innocent people murdered before they have had time to live a life. Dont these evil murderers realise that no matter how many lives they take they will never be victorious as there will never be an end to terrorism to make it a victory.

Ive lived on this earth for 50 years and dear god i have never been so disgusted and felt such dispair about humnaity as i do at this moment.

RIP

 

Living and working out here for some years now mainly Jordan and Qatar. The people I know condemn everything that happens like this, I have never felt unsafe or disrespected, in fact the opposite is true. There are an evil minority amongst all religions and creeds. I don't think there are any answers to this either.

I am a football fan. But how many football fans got tarred with the same brush as being hooligans, again a small percentage where the instigators.

I know I'll probably be shot down by some on here but I have many Muslim friends who I have been invited to they're homes and had fantastic meals and conversations with I have never felt more welcome by such people. I'm no expert but what has happened in Paris won't change my mind it is the evil amongst society that cause this and hide behind religions.

 

After Heissel all English football was banned from Europe until English football got it's act together and got rid of the troublemakers - time for Europe to ban Muslims until it's leaders get their act together and stop the troublemakers - it's a pity that none of its leaders have come out and condemned the Russian plane atrocity or this massacre - it's a problem with Islam and the leaders should sort it

 

What ban those who where born here?

 

You ban the religion , close the mosques - - it's the teachings of the religion that's the problem - please show me where the Muslim leaders have condemned these attacks - they haven't

 

Idiotic, comparing incidents like last night with football incidents.

If you truly believe this then you'll only end up arguing with yourself.

 

And banning the religion and closing the mosques would achieve what exactly? I can only talk from my experience here. They are mainly very nice open hearted people like us.

I am a guest in the country I work in and I behave like one. People who are born in Europe or any where else for that matter have the right to be there like it or not.

 

On Sky, BBC, CNN, RT they are all running this news story non stop. Meanwhile over on Al Jazeera in the run up to the top of the hour they had a news documentary on the election in Mayanmar, 5 mins of headlines at the top of the hour including the Paris attack followed by a news documentary on male circumcision going wrong in Africa.
At the end of the day when all is said and done, they just don't think like we do.

 

After reading so much drivel on here in the last hours, thank you for this post.

 

Any of us who have ever attended a gig will surely be able to empathise with the Bataclan attacks.


You're young, full of life, hope and joy watching an event which is oozing excitement and meaning for you.

Then you are gunned down, unable to escape or defend yourself in a darkened, terrifying space.

As a consequence of someone else's grievance of which you have no part.

You are truly innocent.



RIP All victims of the Paris attacks.

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It's a bit early for last night's, but how about these for the Charlie Hebdo attack:

French Muslim Council: Attack Is An "Extremely Grave Barbaric Action." In a statement, the French Muslim Council condemned the Paris attack as an "extremely grave barbaric action," and called it "an attack against democracy and the freedom of the press." [AlJazeera.com, 1/7/15]

Muslim Council Of Britain Condemns Attack: "Nothing Justifies The Taking Of Life." The Muslim Council of Britain condemned the attack, saying "The Muslim Council of Britain condemns this attack. Whomever the attackers are, and whatever the cause may be, nothing justifies the taking of life." [Muslim Council of Britain, 1/7/15]

Council On American-Islamic Relations: "We Strongly Condemn This Brutal And Cowardly Attack." CAIR strongly condemned the attack, calling it "brutal and cowardly," and used the opportunity to reiterate the organization's "repudiation of any such assault on freedom of speech, even speech that mocks faiths and religious figures":

"We strongly condemn this brutal and cowardly attack and reiterate our repudiation of any such assault on freedom of speech, even speech that mocks faiths and religious figures. The proper response to such attacks on the freedoms we hold dear is not to vilify any faith, but instead to marginalize extremists of all backgrounds who seek to stifle freedom and to create or widen societal divisions.

"We offer sincere condolences to the families and loved ones of those killed or injured in this attack. We also call for the swift apprehension of the perpetrators, who should be punished to the full extent of the law." [Council on American-Islamic Relations, 1/7/15]

Arab League "Strongly Condemns The Terrorist Attack On Charlie Hebdo Newspaper In Paris." The Arab League said in a statement that "Arab League chief Nabil al-Arabi strongly condemns the terrorist attack on Charlie Hebdo newspaper in Paris." [Al Arabiya News, 1/7/15]

Al-Azhar: "Islam Denounces Any Violence." According to Al Arabiya News, "Al-Azhar, a thousand-year-old seat of religious learning respected by Muslims around the world, referred to the attack as a criminal act, saying that 'Islam denounces any violence.'" [Al Arabiya News, 1/7/15]

 

It seems a bit twee to simply offer my sympathies to all affected, but I have no idea what else to say.

I haven't had chance to look at what's gone on, and looking at this and a few other bits on the web, I've no real wish to. Their actions have largely drawn absolute condemnation and hardened resolve.

What I can't get my head round is, what do these people expect the outcome to be? What precisely are their demands?

 

From the website of the French Newspaper "Liberation"


ON THE LIVE ATTACKS IN PARIS
For Saudi Arabia, the attacks are a "violation of all ethics, morals and religion"
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The Saudi foreign minister, Adel al-Jubeir condemned this morning's attacks that killed at least 120 dead in Paris, ruling they constitute a "violation of all ethics, morality and religion." "Iwish to express our condolences to the government and the French people for heinous terrorist attacks that took place yesterday, and are a violation of all ethics, morality and religion," he told reporters before an international meeting on Syria, in Vienna.

 

Please feel free to change your avatar or use this picture, it is circulating in France

 

That's why this a proper 'terror' attack. Against ordinary people doing ordinary things. Soft targets.

Rarely is it heads of state, politician's or military leaders these days.

Would suspect these are holders of French passports from parts of their old territories or born in the country itself which could make the French feel this is more of a civil war which in turn will lead to ordinary people viewing their Algerian/Moroccan/African neighbours in a different way.

Changes things on a number of levels.

Sad times.

 

I know

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Thank God, someone with a constructive and informed point of view. We have had three regular posters, Brady, Bengal Tiger and Peter Saxon,, who have shown their true colours and more than adequately displayed their lack of understanding and intolerance. This was terrorism, it is not representative of a religion, nor is it representative of a regional culture, those things are seperate.

 

My sympathies to the innocent dead in Paris. R.I.P.

But why is France bombing Syria?