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Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Ciaran, Oct 8, 2015.

  1. Mind The Duck

    Mind The Duck Well-Known Member

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    You just proved my point

    Thanks
     
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  2. RobSpur

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    So this is someone who reads out news off an autocue ?

    And she knew the "truth" because ???

    Maybe they'd accidentally given her the secret truth codes ??

    Maybe she saw RT's map of Kalingrad in the Balkans and thought 'that's a goddam lie. Theyve fixed the maps" ?
     
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  3. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    <laugh> I had read it but you don't seem to understand what "Russian Airspace" means nor who the "Baltic States" are.

    Here are the locations in the 1st 20 or so incidents on that list:

    South of Malmo, Kaliningrad, Finmark, Stockholm, Latvia, in/near Lithuanian airspace, Estonian and later Lithuanian airspace, Guam, Swedish airspace, the North Sea, the west coast of Scotland, neutral airspace over the Baltic, inside Canadian IDIZ, international airspace near Kaliningrad, near Finmark, the western Scottish coast and the English Channel.

    Russian Airspace indeed.
     
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  4. Archers Road

    Archers Road Urban Spaceman

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    What utter bollocks. Which country invented jazz, blues, soul, rock n roll & country?

    I could also name 20 of the 20th century's most influential writers and artists off the top of my head if I had time; but let's just leave it at F Scott Fitzgerald, Hemingway, Jackson Pollock and Andy Warhol.

    Yanks have no culture? I can only assume you've never read a book or listened to a record. Or seen a movie.
     
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  5. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    Why do you trust a Russian State Sponsored news organisation?

    On what basis do you take their word over that of Western news agencies?

    Serious question.
     
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  6. RobSpur

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    Kaliningrad (which borders Lithuania) is part of Russia <ok>
     
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  7. Mick O'Toon

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    Don't forget Ireland,2 incidents recently causing avoidance and major loosening of the bowels
    http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/passenger-planes-dodged-russian-bombers-315623.html
     
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  8. RobSpur

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    On this point they don't seem to conflict in terms of facts. Both point out that there have been numerous incidents of russian and european planes being in the same airspace, and both appear to point out that most of the incidents occuree in or next to russian airspace. It's just that your source (or your presentation of it) suggests that this is russia's fault, whereas RT points out that it isnt.

    More generally though, the west's narrative makes no sense, and is patantly bullshit, as I explained at length a couple of days ago.
    That's probably what's really behind all these wars. They're all fighting over who gets Ireland.
     
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  9. DevAdvocate

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    Patently bullshit because RT told you.

    <laugh>
     
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  10. DevAdvocate

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  11. Spook

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    My apologies, Native American culture is very rich and interesting. Everything else you mentioned, including jazz, was taken or inspired by European or African culture. With the exception of Native American culture, American culture has no originality. The entire country is based on the bastardisation of other cultures and consumerism.
     
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  12. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    So it's not their culture because they only incorporated it into their own, like Britain did with Tea?
     
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  13. Spook

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    Yeah, we're just as guilty of it. In my opinion, British culture was born out of British imperialism. The English, Scots, Welsh and Irish have their own culture dating back back over thousands of years. All the things Archer mentioned are inspired by Europe or Africa, rather than Native American culture, suggesting modern American culture has no originality.
     
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  14. Patience

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    Roastings a'where today lads <rofl>
     
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  15. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    British culture was born out of British Imperialism? So we have no culture which predates Empire? I'm afraid that's utter hogwash.
     
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  16. Ciaran

    Ciaran Going for 55

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    Tea is consumed more per head in Ireland than in Britain.

    Are you saying tea is part of British culture :huh:

    It's a drink.
     
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  17. Spook

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    Did you even read my post? I said the English, Scots, Welsh and Irish have their own cultures dating back thousands of years. Britishness before the Empire was political, not cultural. Unless you're referring to the ancient Britons who were Celtic but they'd represent Welsh culture primarily.
     
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  18. DevAdvocate

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    Are you proposing that a drink cannot have a Cultural impact?
     
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  19. DevAdvocate

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    <confused>

    Are Shakespeare, Dickens, Burns, Wordsworth et al not examples of British culture, or are you saying they are Political?
     
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  20. Ciaran

    Ciaran Going for 55

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    It depends what your definition of culture is.

    What cultural impact does tea have on Britain and Ireland?
     
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