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The club never said anything when the Tierney/Morison rumours surfaced, and that rumour seemed a lot stronger than this one. I'm struggling to think of any case of a club commenting on the private affairs of players, unless it's a family bereavement.

True but the story was that Tierney was injured not stormed out or for petulance f the highest order! Grabban storming out of a hotel and buggering off was bound to get out, especially if he'd been confirmed on the bench prior to KO.
It was just a thought to help the lad if it were true. If he stormed off after finding out his Mrs had been boffing and BJ'ing BJ. Then I would think he would get a more sympathetic response.
Lets face it some of our players get booed for very little, so his reception after storming out to try and force a move is not likely to be pleasant!

Bah!
 
In the absence of anything else, I do think this whole situation is completely bizarre, but the idea that it is Bradders sleeping with Grabban's better half sounds a lot like people leaping to conclusions without any evidence whatsoever. Too convenient.

Besides, if that were true, why would Grabban storm out of a hotel room when he heard the squad announced and off the back of two bids from Bournemouth? Surely it's more likely to result in a punch-up in training?

Also, if Grabban were to put in a transfer request and try to force a way out as a result, why would that mean we would sell BJ? I kind of see what's in it for him - four year contract takes him to 32, they've probably just about matched the wages we pay him and they'll increase more if he gets Derby promoted. But why would we sell?
 
I'm sorry, but to me this is just naive in the extreme if you honestly, truthfully believe that. Ryan Bennett isn't going to start games and I'm sure he'd like to be a first team regular so should we shift him as well? .

Thats not, clearly, what I've said. Bennett has never been a first choice, but is happy to learn his craft and push for a start. BJ has done his time, wanted to play first team football and the club has allowed him to move on and do so. Surely you can see the difference?
 
I'm sorry, but to me this is just naive in the extreme if you honestly, truthfully believe that. Ryan Bennett isn't going to start games and I'm sure he'd like to be a first team regular so should we shift him as well? Don't know how many times I need to say this but it's a squad game these days, there is no such thing as a first XI that is going to start all season - or even the majority of games - it just doesn't work like that any more. Part of the skills of being a successful managemer these days is good squad management, keeping players who aren't playing regularly happy so they are up for it when you need them to. Just because he's not going to start every match doesn't mean he wouldn't have had a big part to play over the course of a 38 game season - you don't go from being a 15 goal, player of the season who was the heartbeat of our success last year to "fringe player" who would just be making up the numbers overnight, not at the age of 28 when you should be coming into your prime unless something really has gone wrong that we don't know about - can anyone think of another example of a club selling their player of the season at the peak of his powers in such fashion, particularly during such a vital season in the club's history?

Why would we applaud the club for weakening our squad based on all the information we have publically available to us? How can it be a good thing if there really isn't more to it and there isn't some kind of personality clash going on? Two days on and it still makes no sense to me at all. I also think the silence from the club since Monday has been deafening, it's all just bizarre.

In fact your post seems to assume that it was the club who pushed the move through. It wasn't, BJ was informed of the interest and wanted to pursue it. Norwich didn't stand in his way. Its not a difficult situation to understand
 
In fact your post seems to assume that it was the club who pushed the move through. It wasn't, BJ was informed of the interest and wanted to pursue it. Norwich didn't stand in his way. Its not a difficult situation to understand
But having been settled here, last year's POTS and promotion achieved, why then be so keen to drop down a division, having contributed so much to what they all want(ed) to be a part of.
If Alex Neil had come out and said along the lines of 'Bradley wanted first team football and we couldn't guarantee him that' it would at least make some sense. As it is, I agree with TMC, there's something very messy about the whole affair - not as straightforward as you're trying to make it sound, anyway.
 
But having been settled here, last year's POTS and promotion achieved, why then be so keen to drop down a division, having contributed so much to what they all want(ed) to be a part of.
If Alex Neil had come out and said along the lines of 'Bradley wanted first team football and we couldn't guarantee him that' it would at least make some sense. As it is, I agree with TMC, there's something very messy about the whole affair - not as straightforward as you're trying to make it sound, anyway.
It's not hard to figure out, he's not starting games, Mulumbu and Olson both to return (and almost certain to start), where would BJ fit in? It's not a conspiracy theory, its a logical conclusion. I think people want to imply complications that they have absolutely no evidence to support. He wants to play football, good on him, I for one wish him lots of luck.
Lastly don't forget, everybody has a price, £7.5 is a very very good price for a midfielder with his stats.
 
It just seems odd.

With Grabban we had 'we're not selling anyone the manager wants or for less than we want for them"

With Johnson it's "a bid came in, we chatted with Bradley and he wanted to go, so we let him".

Why Johnson wanted to go is one question, why the management accepted such a late bid and had to scramble for a late loan to cover it, is a second.
 
If Alex Neil had come out and said along the lines of 'Bradley wanted first team football and we couldn't guarantee him that' it would at least make some sense.

As far as I´m aware there has been no interview with either AN or McNally since the window closed, so there´s time for him yet to easily do so.
 
Of course it's odd, and I really don't understand how anyone can think it's such a clear cut thing. It's no big conspiracy theory project, it just quite clearly doesn't make any sense to a lot of us, and nothing anybody has said so far has convinced me in any way.
 
Think it's because it was so out of the blue and came out of nowhere which makes it bizarre, there were no rumours or talk about this until the last minutes that makes it a bit odd and it's understandable so many are asking why. I do think something happened behind closed doors, but as to what I guess we'll never know.

But he's gone now, nothing we can do but get behind the current team.
 
The price agreed is apparently less than £6m. The only way it's going to get near £7m is if Derby get promoted. <ok>


Funnily, I saw E Bennett has tweeted that Bradders will always be the "Norfolk Pirlo". Friendly banter between mates or a loaded comment suggesting that there's a split in the camp and Bradders didn't necessarily want to leave? Who knows.
 
Well, considering how popular BJ was after his storming season last year, it's only natural he would have been a fans favourite - hence the POTS votes. Equally understandable, therefore, that all those disgruntled / bewildered people in question would like some credible answers - it's a human trait.
 
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Elliott and Johnson were definitely firm friends at the club. I'm sure its friendly. There was a picture mocked up online of Johnson superimposed on Pirlo drinking wine.

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Norfolk Pirlo with his "fake hat-trick" ball signed by the lads.
 
With Grabban we had 'we're not selling anyone the manager wants or for less than we want for them"

With Johnson it's "a bid came in, we chatted with Bradley and he wanted to go, so we let him".

Maybe I'm misunderstanding but these two statements don't seem to me to be in any way contradictory? Grabban's bid didn't reflect the value AN put on him. Bradley's did.
 
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