Off Topic The Rank Hovis building bites the dust...

[DMD]

That's the route, there was something peaceful biking along now deserted areas that was once a thriving hub of industry and yes I thought it was part of the Trans Pennine Route. Now this is all mainly closed off I go west instead and bike along Hessle Foreshore up to and past Ferriby parallel with the main railway line. It carries on even further than Ferriby but that is for another day.

The foreshore route has had some changes, but is to be kept open.

Surprisingly, it's never been part of thenTrans-Pennine Route. I asked and part of the reason was down to the ownership of the track that runs from Matalan to Hessle. It's part of a dispute going g back many years, and the cycling officer resigned because of it. He claimed ERYC got additional funding specifically for the cycle track along the foreshore, but spent it on other things totally unrelated to cycling or walking.

The route is designed by the national cycle body, sustrans. If you look, the route through Hull has to be about the most unattractive choices their could be. From Asda on Hessle Rd, it goes through back streets north of Hessle Rd, eventually appearing in Cambridge St. and then picking a way to the Hornsea track on Spyvee St, with a bit extra for those joining or leaving from the ferry.

They were not interested in changing it.

 

[originallambrettaman]

The Trans Pennine Trail website promotes the bit between Hessle and Ferriby as one of best 'traffic free cycling' routes.

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[DMD]

The Trans Pennine Trail website promotes the bit between Hessle and Ferriby as one of best 'traffic free cycling' routes.

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It makes a few claims, none alter the point that it doesn't go along the foreshore from Hessle to Hull, and takes a route through some ****ty bits of Hull.

The bit from Ferriby y to Hessle is very pleasant.

 

[norbellini]

The foreshore route has had some changes, but is to be kept open.

Surprisingly, it's never been part of thenTrans-Pennine Route. I asked and part of the reason was down to the ownership of the track that runs from Matalan to Hessle. It's part of a dispute going g back many years, and the cycling officer resigned because of it. He claimed ERYC got additional funding specifically for the cycle track along the foreshore, but spent it on other things totally unrelated to cycling or walking.

The route is designed by the national cycle body, sustrans. If you look, the route through Hull has to be about the most unattractive choices their could be. From Asda on Hessle Rd, it goes through back streets north of Hessle Rd, eventually appearing in Cambridge St. and then picking a way to the Hornsea track on Spyvee St, with a bit extra for those joining or leaving from the ferry.

They were not interested in changing it.

 

[norbellini]

The foreshore route has had some changes, but is to be kept open.

Surprisingly, it's never been part of thenTrans-Pennine Route. I asked and part of the reason was down to the ownership of the track that runs from Matalan to Hessle. It's part of a dispute going g back many years, and the cycling officer resigned because of it. He claimed ERYC got additional funding specifically for the cycle track along the foreshore, but spent it on other things totally unrelated to cycling or walking.

The route is designed by the national cycle body, sustrans. If you look, the route through Hull has to be about the most unattractive choices their could be. From Asda on Hessle Rd, it goes through back streets north of Hessle Rd, eventually appearing in Cambridge St. and then picking a way to the Hornsea track on Spyvee St, with a bit extra for those joining or leaving from the ferry.

They were not interested in changing it.

Well thats cleared that up. So lets hope they get cracking and get it open soon. I am not holding my breath

 

[DMD]

Well thats cleared that up. So lets hope they get cracking and get it open soon. I am not holding my breath

I don't the new route around the Siemens part will be as good as the old one. I think at the moment it directs you back to the road. I've not done it recently myself, but I'm told it's still passable though. I was talking to someone who said they were on it last week.

Someone's definitely missing a trick by not making more of the foreshore though.

 

[originallambrettaman]

I don't the new route around the Siemens part will be as good as the old one. I think at the moment it directs you back to the road. I've not done it recently myself, but I'm told it's still passable though. I was talking to someone who said they were on it last week.

Someone's definitely missing a trick by not making more of the foreshore though.

You should get on to the council...

 

[DMD]

You should get on to the council...

I have, ERYC who are responsible for the bits that block it weren't very good, hence the cycling officer creating a blog they tried to close before he left.

 

[originallambrettaman]

I have, ERYC who are responsible for the bits that block it weren't very good, hence the cycling officer creating a blog they tried to close before he left.

Once you get to the end of Jean's Walk you have to come away from the waterfront anyway, not only is there water to get over, but the industrial units front the water, so there isn't continuous access to the waterfront and you have to go along Livingstone Road. From the end of Livingston Road onwards is HCC land, so I'm not sure what it's got to do with ERYCC, but I could be missing something.

 

[DMD]

Once you get to the end of Jean's Walk you have to come away from the waterfront anyway, not only is there water to get over, but the industrial units front the water, so there isn't continuous access to the waterfront and you have to go along Livingstone Road. From the end of Livingston Road onwards is HCC land, so I'm not sure what it's got to do with ERYCC, but I could be missing something.

You can pedal all the along the frontage from the ferry to Ferriby, (I've done it) so walking should be a piece of piss. The bit at the end of the path back of Matalan isn't Hull CC land at all.

EDIT, I just double checked. I knew the boundary ran through Sainsbury car park, and looking at it, it runs directly to the estuary, which puts everything west of the slip road roundabout, Livingstone Rd, outside of the Hull boundary.

http://web4.hullcc.gov.uk/HCCinternet/i4lg/pages/main/main.jsp

 

[originallambrettaman]

You can pedal all the along the frontage from the ferry to Ferriby, (I've done it) so walking should be a piece of piss. The bit at the end of the path back of Matalan isn't Hull CC land at all.

Everything from Waterside Business Park back to Hull is within the HHC boundary according to their own maps...

http://web4.hullcc.gov.uk/HCCinternet/i4lg/pages/main/main.jsp

What did you do when you reached this?

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[DMD]

Everything from Waterside Business Park back to Hull is within the HHC boundary according to their own maps...

http://web4.hullcc.gov.uk/HCCinternet/i4lg/pages/main/main.jsp

What did you do when you reached this?

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When I came to that bit of the east riding, I went over the bridge, as that's where the frontage is. Walking on water isn't something I've mastered...yet. I use similar bridges in Hull when crossing the River Hull and docks.

I've put a link to the same boundary, which shows Livingstone Rd outside of Hull. The other bit of land may well fall within the boundary, but that doesn't make it Council land. It isn't Council land, which is what I said before this got side tracked.

 

[originallambrettaman]

When I came to that bit of the east riding, I went over the bridge, as that's where the frontage is. Walking on water isn't something I've mastered...yet.

I've put a link to the same boundary, which shows Livingstone Rd outside of Hull. The other bit of land may well fall within the boundary, but that doesn't make it Council land. It isn't Council land, which is what I said before this got side tracked.

So you can't go continuously from Hull to Ferribly on the front, you have to cut in down Livingston Road, as there's no public access where the industrial units front the water and you have to get over the water at Hessle Haven, which is exactly what I said.

And if it isn't council land, then it's not an access issue caused by either HCC or ERYCC.

 

[DMD]

So you can't go continuously from Hull to Ferribly on the front, you have to cut in down Livingston Road, as there's no public access where the industrial units front the water and you have to get over the water at Hessle Haven, which is exactly what I said.

And if it isn't council land, then it's not an access issue caused by either HCC or ERYCC.

I guess that depends on what you're eventually arguing about. At least you've realised it's not HCC, which was your initial claim, so I guess that's progress. I knew it wasn't ERYC land too, so I wasn't claiming that.

You have to cross water at many points on the route. That's life.

Missed this bit earlier..there's a public footpath that runs most of the way in front of the units.

 

[originallambrettaman]

I guess that depends on what you're eventually arguing about. At least you've realised it's not HCC, which was your initial claim, so I guess that's progress. I knew it wasn't ERYC land too, so I wasn't claiming that.

You have to cross water at many points on the route. That's life.

I said the HCC boundary starts at the end of Livingston Road, it does, I haven't realised anything I didn't know already.

I'm just trying to figure out what you're claiming ERYCC did to prevent access and I'm none the wiser.

 

[DMD]

I said the HCC boundary starts at the end of Livingston Road, it does, I haven't realised anything I didn't know already.

I'm just trying to figure out what you're claiming ERYCC did to prevent access and I'm none the wiser.

If I can be bothered, I'll see if I can find that blog from the former employee that goes into quite a bit of detail, which should help with your wisdom.

 

[originallambrettaman]

If I can be bothered, I'll see if I can find that blog from the former employee that goes into quite a bit of detail, which should help with your wisdom.

Ta.

 

[originallambrettaman]

Anyone remember this 22ft mosiac wall that wall that was recently uncovered in the old Romeo & Juliets?

I don't remember it at all.

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[Sikkedogsvendestykke]

Once you get to the end of Jean's Walk you have to come away from the waterfront anyway, not only is there water to get over, but the industrial units front the water, so there isn't continuous access to the waterfront and you have to go along Livingstone Road.

What he means is that you cross Hessle Haven at the railway track, and the land to the south was once Richard Dunston's shipyard.

 

[Sikkedogsvendestykke]

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Yup. There it is.

1. Don't moor up on the mud to the right if you have a deep keel. There is rock beneath and you'll be on your beam ends as the tide goes out. And there is nowt to get a line around on shore.

2. Heaven knows what the condition of the sheet piling is on the left. I'll wager that in 20 years the old Dunstan yard quay (that's it on the left) will look exactly like the right hand side of this picture.

3. I take it there is no pub there any more?