City transfer thread

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Genuine question, what have you seen in him that makes you think that?

I saw the good flashes when we first came in but being away most of last season I had to rely on dodgy streams and the rare TV coverage. I was was excited when we signed him, heard he was all about pace and running.. I just haven't seen it!
Hernandez, I feel, lost his mojo last season, but as you say his game is all about pace and movement, and I honestly think that if we can pair him up with at least one top quality creative central midfield that understands his game I think that he has the capacity to absolutely destroy Championship defences.
 
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In 1964-65 would people have said that Ken Wagstaff, Ken Houghton and Ian Butler were worth £40,000 each before seeing them play for us?
 
No disrespect to Bristol City. But it's embarrassing for us if he signs for them over us.

Why is it?

They offered more money, simple as that.

If we matched their bid and he picked them over us then we should probably be a little concerned but as it stands we aren't willing to be held to ransom by Brentford and they are.
 
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I wonder if Grey is peeved off since I bet he tried to engineer a move to city and finishes up in Bristol ?
Sideways move at best for him.
 
It says to me that Bristol are willing to pay a bigger transfer fee, pay more wage's and if its all about money then Bristol are welcome to him, would like to see him at city, but not if we have to bust the bank to get him, and at the moment the only thing that's happen is Brentford have accepted the money offered and the player has been given permission to talk to them, talking and signing are totally different thing's, this is were the money grabbing agents get involved and bearing in mind the size of the transfer fee he'll be after PL wages now.

1. It is hardly busting the bank when it's at most a couple of million more than we have already offered. He could be the difference between getting us promoted and for that £2m the reward can be 120m plus.
2. We have bust the bank before on a lot more risky signings. Hernandez, Bullard, Prochwitz.
So far this season Gray has played a bit part role and already got an assist and 2 goals. Last season scoring 18 and getting 8 assists.
 
Or what happens if nobody else leaves after spending £7/8/9m on Gray and giving him a decent wage, we end up making a loss of let's say £12m, we start next season in the championship with a fine for £12m, have to sell everyone to meet it, begin the season with a mixture of academy players and James harpers on free transfers?

What if we don't get promoted again at all? Where does the money come from to cover the losses? Don't say we just sell Gray back on because there's no guarantee he'll come here and score goals. We could be hawking him about on loan offering to pay half his wages in two years time, it's not like there's no precedent for this type of thing.

We have been relegated from the PL, we can't afford to go paying out £7m without having that sort of cash first. And don't say 'well we got x amount for Brady Chester and ince', the stark reality is, a good sizeable chunk of that money goes elsewhere, sell on fees, agents, the players themselves, the fa, an even bigger chunk will hve been spoken for already to cover whatever we owe on transfer fees from the pat couple of seasons and excess wages we're left with (despite 50% pay cuts we had players on 40/50k a week. 20-25k per week is a lot of money for a club with championship income).

I suspect all the money we've recieved has already been spent. I would be absolutely ****ing amazed if there was even half of the initial fee for Gray left over. So who's going to pay for it? Who's going to cover his wage?

And with five strikers already on our books, there are far more pressing matters elsewhere. Central midfield, in goal and the left flank for starters.

We have the second highest profit this window after Soton at something like 17.5m. 8m for Gray is a lot less than that.
 
1. It is hardly busting the bank when it's at most a couple of million more than we have already offered. He could be the difference between getting us promoted and for that £2m the reward can be 120m plus.
2. We have bust the bank before on a lot more risky signings. Hernandez, Bullard, Prochwitz.
So far this season Gray has played a bit part role and already got an assist and 2 goals. Last season scoring 18 and getting 8 assists.

So where does the money come from? Who's paying for it? Who's going to cover his wages?

Remember this all has to fall in line with FFP.
 
I think you do. You're allowed a 9m loss. We're currently sitting on a 17.5m profit.

We've had installments to pay though from previous transfers. If it looks like Jela and Abel are staying do we really need another striker?

We've also got a very good creative midfielder in Snodgrass coming back too
 
We have the second highest profit this window after Soton at something like 17.5m. 8m for Gray is a lot less than that.

That is quoting the headline fees. There is a lot of that to offset, some of those fees will be addons, plenty goes elsewhere as mentioned in my post. Our wage bill must be enormous for a championship club. In order to play it safely money won't only hve to be put aside to cover this season's excess wages but until the high earners contracts expire. We have commitments to pay from transfer fees from the previous two seasons to take into account. I would assume a fair bit of Robbie Brady's fee will have written off what is owed on Snodgrass.

It's not as simple as we have sold x amount in players so we hve that amount to spend.

I also highly doubt Jelavic's release clause is 3 or 4 million. You don't sign a player for £7m when there's a very good chance he could walk for half that amount 6 months later. If it was so low, I've no doubt he'd be gone by now.