In terms of playing out wide, yes - he's pretty good. His crossing is very good.
But I'm talking specifically about him in a central midfield role.
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In terms of playing out wide, yes - he's pretty good. His crossing is very good.
But I'm talking specifically about him in a central midfield role.
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Not sure we need CMs to be running with the ball too often although Can can do that. I'd say let the ball so the work, they're all capable of fast one touch passing. Leave running with the ball to the players that are good at it such as Coutinho.
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Thats actualy not too bad. What it allows is flexibility to adapt on game as well. Could switch that to a 433 with cout and firmmy wide and Milner back in middle or a 442 diamond with cout behind firmmy an benteke.
Benteke woild hope the ball and bring the 3 behind into play, while of Milner is wide he has a good delivery and benteke will actually give us the option of putting in a cross.
Said id it a lot but last year we were easy to defend against as teams pushed us wide limiting the space in the middle in the knowledge that we wouldn't/couldn't cross the ball with only sterling in the middle. At least benteke in there would make teams think twice about that
maybe that is the logic behind benteke being in there, would make sense except tthe price to target him lol.
what about lambert though if that was the thinking behind targeting him, could he not have adopted that style of play to his game or too slow and old maybe, ie beneteke has pace as well doesnt he?
Long time...Benteke is at least four years younger: and we can recoup majority part of the outlay if we haveThat's cheaper in Dribs' world
to sell within the next three years. Bacca would be about 33 in three years. No one would pay £10m for a player of that
age.Also, we may not have to pay £32.2m for Benteke at once. Prudent accounting policy.
But problem is, Coutinho will be operating higher so he has less space to run into. And the issue is can the CM's get the ball into the attackers. I know it sounds simple enough but it's not - it's a congested area and finding space and more importantly the key pass is difficult.
However, if we set up as 4-2-3-1, then I'd imagine we get the ball up the pitch through the full backs (Moreno and Clyne), so I guess CM's running with the ball isn't that crucial.
Well this is the thing - we have big target men like Mario and Lambert but Rodgers couldn't make it work. If he couldn't play to their strengths, why is he willing to change the system to suit Benteke?
Any way you cut it. .. we will be a better side than last year. That doesn't get us to top 4 but at least we are better.
If the side improves like this and we finally after 2/3 years of Gerrard fading have shed that issue it can only be a good thing to move on now.
I bet Tobes could do that maths and show how much we've shovelled out and are still not grateful
If the side improves like this and we finally after 2/3 years of Gerrard fading have shed that issue it can only be a good thing to move on now.
I bet Tobes could do that maths and show how much we've shovelled out and are still not grateful
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Lambert could not run. It was stupid signing meant to rest sturridge or suarez after 70 mins.
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He'll be 29 in Sept. Strikers tend to fade rapidly post 30 (See RvP for details) so whilst I think he'd be great for a season or 2, in terms of value I think he's a poor investment.Bacca is 28. In three years he would be 31.
Other than that
Should bear in mind that he didn't really start playing at a high level until 22.
Also, he rarely finishes game. Think he only played one full game last season.
Another point - we have Coutinho and just spent £22m on Firmino who are creative players predominantly through the centre and playing through balls.
Benteke is not that type of striker.
Benteke is not that type of striker.
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