With a majority of 24,800, is Gove one of the safest Tories? His reputation with the general public is already ****e after his meddling with education, so are the Tories taking advantage of the fact his reputation can't get any worse ,by putting him in charge of abolishing the human rights act?
I was referring to the grandparents of those so called protesters not yours and also the fact that you even had to suggest that the whole thing was staged by the Tories. And don't call me a twat just because my political views differ from yours.
If you're asking whether I still bear a grudge against the overrated useless git then yes I do and I'm also a pissed off with Dave as well for starting this thread in the first place. I knew people would start falling out big time if politics was discussed and I've been proven right. Where is he anyway ? He hasn't posted for ages ?
It's always Tories who don't want things discussed isn't it? Almost as if they are frightened that they and their evil little machinations will be rumbled. I see JWM has lapsed into a coma.
**** it, this is supposed to be a football forum and all this thread has done is cause in fighting over nothing to do with Football .. ...
So what went wrong in Waveney then Cruyff? According to you the labour man was going to be a shoe in!
Quite possibly. Sad that this appears to be one of their first targets. Getting rid of the Human Rights Act is ridiculous in my eyes. How anyone would vote for him is beyond me. The other candidates must be ****!
It's "shoo" JWM. A shoe is what you wear on your feet. Did you not get a CSE english? How can you be a patriot and not know the English language?
You are such a fooking hypocrite mate! You criticise Tories for not answering straight forward questions yet you can't do it either! Could it be a severe case of sour grapes old mate as you couldn't gain either of your target seats that you boasted about getting!
OK JWM straight answer. We lost. If you want the reason it's the lying Tory bastards who hopefully will be getting their comeuppance, but not via the ballot box. June 10th looks like a good date.
You have a serious case of self denial mate! Like Labour Welsh windbag Neil Kinnock who accused the electorate of being delusional!
I must admit I did mutter "****er" to myself when I heard him say it. Labour didn't lose it due to lying tories, even the Scots turned their back. I don't think I'd ever vote Tory, but even I would have put them well up on my list than Labour with the repugnent idea less Balls and the totally missing the point policies of Ed Milliband. Mandelson is completely correct when he says Labour need to cover the centre ground, far left ideals left England 30 years ago and nobody (to win an election anyway) wants them back.
Who said anything about far left? I think Blair was the best PM we ever had. I just don't like liars and cheats and Eton bully boys.
Blair wasn't far left , and I agree that (apart from the war) he was an excellent Prime Minister. You don't think Blair had his liars and cheats alongside him to do the dirty work, Mandelson and Campbell.