Yep - whoever can conjure up a majority for policy/Queen's Speech will take it. Minority government or coalition.
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Yep - whoever can conjure up a majority for policy/Queen's Speech will take it. Minority government or coalition.
Actually yes, I can see that. At that point wouldn't the Queen get to tell him to **** off? But in a more Queenly manner of course.
Why should anyone vote for Miliband, who is hardly an example of someone who has had it rough and had to make it on their own?
Why do,you think I would vote for his party? You notice I said party. We vote for a party here not an individual. Maybe you are getting mixed up with countries where they elect a President?
Wonder how the SWP and Communists will get on?
I realise ultimately of course the party with the most MPs gets the power, and the Prime Minister, but when I vote, I consider local things only and ignore the country wide implications.
I wouldn't vote for an odious local MP just because I wanted a specific PM, that just doesn't make any sense to me. I want someone who will fight for, and do the most for my local area.
Do other people do that too, or are they voting for leaders (indirectly)?
I wouldn't vote for an odious local MP just because I wanted a specific PM, that just doesn't make any sense to me. I want someone who will fight for, and do the most for my local area.
Do other people do that too, or are they voting for leaders (indirectly)?
I have sometimes in the past voted for someone whose party I wasn't particularly enamoured with because they have done a good job locally. Whether that is the correct approach is open to debate of course. This time they are the usual bland, professional politician types who I don't recall being involved in London cal politics previously like the ones I mentioned earlier so this time will be different. Not that we have seen a single one round my way. Maybe they consider the result a foregone conclusion.
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Its annoying that my local constituency is almost certain to return a Tory. People just vote for the ****er without any real thoughts on what it is they're doing or what he does for them (**** all actually), and he epitomises for me the wrongs of everything entitled within the Tories.
I should add that even if they were the messiah, I wouldn't ever vote for someone representing UKIP for example. Its unlikely that their policies would align with my views in any case.
Its annoying that my local constituency is almost certain to return a Tory. People just vote for the ****er without any real thoughts on what it is they're doing or what he does for them (**** all actually), and he epitomises for me the wrongs of everything entitled within the Tories.
NorthFerribyTiger
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Not really been a coalition though.....it's been 99% of Tory policies with 1% token concessions to the Lib Dems....ironic since Lib Dem core policies are actually left of the current Labour ones
We'll just have to agree to differ then.
What the Coalition government has done to profoundly disabled and terminally I'll people by insisting they are capable of working via cruel and ludicrous assessments is nothing short of disgraceful.
Qatartiger Cambridgetiger
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This thread has amazed me so far ... I know it is still early. If there was one thread that I thought would turn into chaos it would be this one. WOW !!
Maybe because they think posho Ed, the Leeds United fan, is a clueless ****.
That's gone off point really. You mentioned Posh Dave as if this was a reason not to vote for him -whereas the Milibands are just as posh, monied and priviledged as David Cameron is.
As I said to Castro's Coffin, we'll just have to agree to differ. The sooner we get back to matters relating to Hull City the better it will be for all!
NorthFerribyTiger
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Tories inherited around £850 billion UK debt & after 5 years it is now heading towards £1.5 Trillion
Unemployment is down by almost the same number that zero hours contracts have risen
Out of work benefits have fallen, but in work benefits have risen by more than the reduction
The single room subsidy has pushed tenants of social housing into the hands of private landlords, this has increased the housing benefit bill, left councils with a multi million rent shortfall & thousands of houses which they can no longer rent as there are not the families to rent them
Hundreds of sick have died in poverty waiting for the "fit to work" scheme assessments/appeals
NHS A&E waiting times have never been so bad
There is more tax being evaded/avoided now by big companies than when the current government came to power despite reductions in corporation tax
The Tories have promised a referendum on EU membership AFTER a treaty renegotiation, something the EU have said will not happen & even if it did the Tories, Lib Dems & Labour would all be campaigning against leaving
The government says it believes in lifelong education yet has increased tuition fees (my lads currently have student loans which will take decades to repay) & they have massively reduced budgets for FE colleges (by 30% this year alone) & have reduced or removed much of the course funding that was available to adults
The Tories introduced the badger cull which has been shown to have virtually no impact on bovine TB cases & may have increased it's spread while massacring a protected species
A future Tory government will repeal the ban on hunting with dogs
I know in my constituency my vote will make very little difference but what I do know is that no Conservative or UKIP candidate will get it
This is my main concern as I deal with somebody with MS on a daily basis and they live in fear because of scapegoating of welfare claimants, this should not be happening. Even last night one of those disgusting Benefit Streets shows was on, coincidence or not?
Labour won't go into a formal coalition with the SNP, SDLP, Plaid Cymru and Sinn Fein. They might do a deal with the Lib Dems and Greens but it still won't be enough for a majority. It will be a minority Labour government with SNP and most Lib Dem MPs voting in favour of Miliband's Queen's Speech. A minority government won't last past Christmas though; one thing Clegg's right about. It will be exactly like Sweden's situation.
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