Were we not down to two CB's (Hill & Dunne) on the field at that point in the match with Caulker off injured and Onuoha dismissed?
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Were we not down to two CB's (Hill & Dunne) on the field at that point in the match with Caulker off injured and Onuoha dismissed?
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.... huh... oh..... 
... Yes bloody yes they were!!!! Cheers Kilburn.... mate!!! 
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At the end of the day, not that it really matters - Barton seemed to just bounce off Gerrard, Clint would have definitely been a better match-up in the air.
With the score 1-0 my 14 yr old daughter phoned and asked to be picked up from a friend's house (30 min round trip) - normally I would have told her to wait until our match was over, but at that point in the game I didn't really care as I normally would, so I missed out on all the late action!
We already have Steve Black & he couldn't motivate a Frog to jump
1) I thought that OBZ was marking Gerrard and Barton saw that OBZ had fallen asleep and came in too late.
2) Barton wins more headers from defending corners than any other player.
3) He always attacks (and wins) the front post crosses, the ball was slightly too high for him.
when you throw in the towel TW then you just know the fat lady has well and truly sung!!
TWGWTDT
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I think we will run City close such is how CR has got this current team into shape but of course I fully agree that we haven't been good enough over 90 mins
We have been close but close isn't enough
I chuck in the towel because the surprise has been the performance of the other teams around us
We have spent a lot of money and are one point better off than Burnley who built an excellent team core and didn't really change it
I expect fair posters will all understand who did the damage to our club
We are all in it together again and we all seem to share the same humble opinion that we are not good enough
There is a general worry in football now IMO that if any good team forms then it's not long before others rape their best assets . I can easily see CR building his team and maybe getting good success but the step back up will require so much investment ... It will be interesting to see if TF goes for it a third time
To date he has been a dreadful failure IMO so all we can do is wait and see. The clubs image is totally wrong under TF IMO
He is however a honest man it seems and I think he knows he is a failure at doing these sporting things
My belief is he will walk away
QPR has to rebuild again and I doubt if there will be a shortage of new faces at the club
IMO the club has to establish its own clear identity drawn on our history of playing tight exciting football
The Swansea model is their own and one I fully respect even if the football is not everyone's cup of tea but them and Arsenal are currently the teams I like best ... Then look at us CR left to do a job with some terrible tools
I think he deserves a chance to build our club with his team ... He is the answer IMO and I bet anyone he will play a completely different style
I only hope there is a way that we do play in the championship because that is not certain and I predict a real swing against TF and IMO that is right ... We need no egos pretending they are better than they are TF and Harold are bad for our club
TF has been the worse football chairman in this league by a country mile ... Only after the limelight
Same as Harold
Both of them should be totally ashamed of their actions but they don't see it
Both are equally useless in this game and fed our fan base with bullshit
Time to move on and forget them
Well after a summer of ranting that is
We have been close but close isn't enough
I chuck in the towel because the surprise has been the performance of the other teams around us
We have spent a lot of money and are one point better off than Burnley who built an excellent team core and didn't really change it
I expect fair posters will all understand who did the damage to our club
We are all in it together again and we all seem to share the same humble opinion that we are not good enough
There is a general worry in football now IMO that if any good team forms then it's not long before others rape their best assets . I can easily see CR building his team and maybe getting good success but the step back up will require so much investment ... It will be interesting to see if TF goes for it a third time
To date he has been a dreadful failure IMO so all we can do is wait and see. The clubs image is totally wrong under TF IMO
He is however a honest man it seems and I think he knows he is a failure at doing these sporting things
My belief is he will walk away
QPR has to rebuild again and I doubt if there will be a shortage of new faces at the club
IMO the club has to establish its own clear identity drawn on our history of playing tight exciting football
The Swansea model is their own and one I fully respect even if the football is not everyone's cup of tea but them and Arsenal are currently the teams I like best ... Then look at us CR left to do a job with some terrible tools
I think he deserves a chance to build our club with his team ... He is the answer IMO and I bet anyone he will play a completely different style
I only hope there is a way that we do play in the championship because that is not certain and I predict a real swing against TF and IMO that is right ... We need no egos pretending they are better than they are TF and Harold are bad for our club
TF has been the worse football chairman in this league by a country mile ... Only after the limelight
Same as Harold
Both of them should be totally ashamed of their actions but they don't see it
Both are equally useless in this game and fed our fan base with bullshit
Time to move on and forget them
Well after a summer of ranting that is
thanks!
Bmouth are totally untested in the prem.....it might be THEIR level. Who knows?
fair enough. not much to argue with there. If ramsey got given a chance in the championship i wouldn't mind. like you, i'm looking forward to a a bit of a clear out and another crack at it and i think ramsey could do a decent job. As far as TF goes, i think his main crime has been that he's tried to build too much, too quickly and been too trusting in the football people around him. I'm not as cynical about him as you but i'll concede he's made some howlers
So..looking forward….who would you keep from the current side next season?
I'm presuming Tarbs, Austin, Phillips, Caulker and Fer, Isla and Vargas are all off.
I'd personally keep Barton and Dunne. Possibly even Hill for a season (as a squad player) to impart some balls and experience to the youngsters.
If green wants to stay id keep him too.
Hoilett… he's had plenty of chances and not delivered but I wait in hope. I'd keep him for one more championship season on the off chance he finds his form.
I'd give BZ another year too but as a squad player.
Yun - keep
Sandro - keep (although fairly sure he'll be off)
Faurlin keep - hope the knees hold out.
mccarthy - keep.
No idea if the kids are good enough.
its the nucleus of a side i suppose…a frightening amount of rebuilding to be done to be honest.
TWGWTDT
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Chile boys of course are off
Taarabt needs to re start his career
I think wherever he goes he will flourish maybe a French side I still believe that one of the really big clubs will take him after he has had a season at a different club
He needs to play well away from England
I simply have no idea about the rest or who CR would bring in I am hoping for a young side without fear who play a new way that's seems to be an exciting formula
names we have never heard off?
Taarabt needs to re start his career
I think wherever he goes he will flourish maybe a French side I still believe that one of the really big clubs will take him after he has had a season at a different club
He needs to play well away from England
I simply have no idea about the rest or who CR would bring in I am hoping for a young side without fear who play a new way that's seems to be an exciting formula
names we have never heard off?
I'm sorry, but that's just rubbish.
The other teams are struggling in the low 30s points wise, when we know that around 35-40 points is the required total usually to survive.
We are languishing on 27 points with 3 games to go.
We have been awful and although I agree that Redknapp is mainly to blame, Ramsey has been very poor also.
I firmly believe that Sherwood, Pulis or Pardew would have kept our squad up from the point at which Ramsey took over.
We need to start recruiting players from League One to Conference level, there are good young players in these leagues busting a gut for a chance, we just need to effectively scout them. Many of Bournemouth's players came from that level. Our youth system is not developed enough to feed the first team as yet, but that should be a priority from now on...
You may be right - although very doubtful.
There are 3 ways a team of limited ability can stay up-
Pace in the team
Some skill or
A well drilled team a la Stoke or Wimbledon of the day
You cannot stay up when you have absolutely none of the above - hence why Sunderland will be joining us.
Of the 3, only Pulis would have stood any chance at all, but our owners like alot of us, gave up after the FA Cup match.
Sorry Col, you're deluded if you think that. The players just aren't good enough, end of...
Why would Sherwood, Pulis or Pardew have joined us at the end of the window with the squad that we have? 11 away losses on the trot would have told them all they needed to know. Beggars can't be choosers. Ramsey may not have been an ideal choice, but I am really struggling to see who else would have come. Phil Brown perhaps.
If the owners stick to the austerity plan, surely the only thing to do unless they enjoy burning money and creating problems with the League, I am also struggling to see any other manager we would have heard of, except the truly desperate, coming in the summer.
I would like to see us keep Ramsey on and let him continue to develop the young players that he has been working with. We could bring back the other youngsters that have been out on loan, whilst retaining some of the older heads - Barton, Dunne, Hill, Henry. A striker signing to replace Austin and we're good to go in the Championship.