ALLAM OUT WEBSITE
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Are you kidding? He gets endless love for the most basic virtue. He often gets praised on here simply for not trying to interfere with the team.
A lot of fans are unhappy with their team's owners, but only the Oystons can come close to the Allams for sheer ****itude.
You're completely blind if you can't appreciate anything the Allam's have done for the club. But he's a list nonetheless:
Loaned the club a large amount of money so we could survive
He's a business man - he loaned the money because he thought he could make money - that's all - I wasn't a philanthropic gift or anything like that - it was a businessman making a business decision for himself - no credit needed
Brought in Bruce on a big contract
One year rolling is not a big contract - but to be fair a big name manager
Backed Bruce in the transfer market for the promotion push which meant we could bring in players like Brady, Quinn, Boyd, Proschwitz which led to promotion
Proschwitz - arf - the first of a number of **** buys in the transfer market
Backed Bruce again with transfer in our 1st year. Broke our transfer record in 3 consecutive windows helping us get to FA Cup Final and Europe
don't forget Amos, Graham, Sagbo - broke our record - where exactly has it got us - with one or two exceptions , we will never get our money back on what we've spent
Backed him again last season. Spent £25m net in the summer
massively overpaid for Livermore and Hernandez - brought in Ben Arfa, dumped, and Ince and Maguire, farmed out
Improved the 1st team training facilities
doesn't seem to have worked - we're going backwards
Completely revamped the youth set up so that we should get Cat 2 very soon
do you mean the bit where he **** on the tenants of the Airco and the Council are taking him to court
Many improvements also made in the stadium
do you mean the bit where people now get in 20 minutes after the game has started or the 'kop' was evicted from E1 to E3
Gave Bruce a 3 yr contract
he should have been sacked
Also gave Aluko a new contract, which was huge at the time.
I can't make my mind up whether this post is a spoof or you're deluded
Turned the club around so that we made a profit when the latest accounts were published[/QUOTE]
it made a profit because he changed the year end and missed out July - he didn't want it up for sale showing a loss - anyone doing proper due diligence would see this - compare this with the 'astute businessman' in charge who totally ****ed up his due diligence because he couldn't wait to get his grubby hands on the club because he thought he would make a fortune and in the process failed to check the accounts properly and failed to understand most of the legal documentation, covenants and responsibilities
The Website could have said a lot more about the constant lies and threats - not brilliant by any stretch of the imagination but makes the point - enough is enough of this nasty old man - I expect Palarse will turn into an anti-Allam party if things start going wrong
Loaned the club a large amount of money so we could survive
He's a business man - he loaned the money because he thought he could make money - that's all - I wasn't a philanthropic gift or anything like that - it was a businessman making a business decision for himself - no credit needed
Brought in Bruce on a big contract
One year rolling is not a big contract - but to be fair a big name manager
Backed Bruce in the transfer market for the promotion push which meant we could bring in players like Brady, Quinn, Boyd, Proschwitz which led to promotion
Proschwitz - arf - the first of a number of **** buys in the transfer market
Backed Bruce again with transfer in our 1st year. Broke our transfer record in 3 consecutive windows helping us get to FA Cup Final and Europe
don't forget Amos, Graham, Sagbo - broke our record - where exactly has it got us - with one or two exceptions , we will never get our money back on what we've spent
Backed him again last season. Spent £25m net in the summer
massively overpaid for Livermore and Hernandez - brought in Ben Arfa, dumped, and Ince and Maguire, farmed out
Improved the 1st team training facilities
doesn't seem to have worked - we're going backwards
Completely revamped the youth set up so that we should get Cat 2 very soon
do you mean the bit where he **** on the tenants of the Airco and the Council are taking him to court
Many improvements also made in the stadium
do you mean the bit where people now get in 20 minutes after the game has started or the 'kop' was evicted from E1 to E3
Gave Bruce a 3 yr contract
he should have been sacked
Also gave Aluko a new contract, which was huge at the time.
I can't make my mind up whether this post is a spoof or you're deluded
Turned the club around so that we made a profit when the latest accounts were published[/QUOTE]
it made a profit because he changed the year end and missed out July - he didn't want it up for sale showing a loss - anyone doing proper due diligence would see this - compare this with the 'astute businessman' in charge who totally ****ed up his due diligence because he couldn't wait to get his grubby hands on the club because he thought he would make a fortune and in the process failed to check the accounts properly and failed to understand most of the legal documentation, covenants and responsibilities
The Website could have said a lot more about the constant lies and threats - not brilliant by any stretch of the imagination but makes the point - enough is enough of this nasty old man - I expect Palarse will turn into an anti-Allam party if things start going wrong
Allam has done what no other owner has ever done, he's turned fan against fan, that's why he's the worst owner ever, at least with Lloyd we were altogether in our hatred of him, yes Allam is worse than Lloyd
I don't get your point, so because they aren't the first don't bother?
You weren't the first to join this forum. How original!
Well this will scare him, further people calling him names on the internet whilst 20k+ still turn up, buy food, buy drinks, buy merchandise and then buy season tickets.....
They showed him alright.
They showed him alright.
I dont know if this is a joke, irony or just incredibly poorly informed. But i'll entertain it nontheless.... name me one single way in which Allam is better than Paul Duffen?
They both got us promoted, they both (so far) have treated us to 2 seasons of top flight football. That's where the similarities end. Duffen didnt take every opportunity to piss off his customers, say "they can die when they want", call the club name and heritage "lousy and irrelevant", ignore the rules of tenancy and evict dozens of valuable community groups from a community asset that he doesnt own and all this while running up ONE THIRD of the debt that Allam has, a debt that the club pays for with considerable interest.
You're forgetting the position that Duffen left us in. We were going out of business. Yes, Allam has pissed all over the fans but financially we are in a much better position than we were under Duffen. If we do go down, then we have a squad full of sell-able assets. Duffen pissed all the money away on champagne and extravagance and completely overpaid players.
it made a profit because he changed the year end and missed out July - he didn't want it up for sale showing a loss - anyone doing proper due diligence would see this - compare this with the 'astute businessman' in charge who totally ****ed up his due diligence because he couldn't wait to get his grubby hands on the club because he thought he would make a fortune and in the process failed to check the accounts properly and failed to understand most of the legal documentation, covenants and responsibilities
The Website could have said a lot more about the constant lies and threats - not brilliant by any stretch of the imagination but makes the point - enough is enough of this nasty old man - I expect Palarse will turn into an anti-Allam party if things start going wrong [/QUOTE]
It's not up to Allam who, Bruce decids to bring in. My point was that the money was there.
RE Aluko's contract, it was all over twitter how big that was for us.
No I'm not and no we're not. We have 3 times the debt that Duffen left us with.
And who exactly is sellable? The only players I think we will make profit on are Elmo, Chester and Robertson.
Duffen was just an employee, he wasn't responsible for the debt level we had, that was down to Bartlett.
We'd return a profit on the vast amount of the squad.
We'd get a good £6-8m for Ince alone as long as Derby got promoted.
We'd get our money back for Jela, Dawson, N'Doye, Huddlestone
We'd make money on Chester, Elmo, Diame
We wouldn't be short of takers for many of our players that's for sure.
And we wouldn't be left with a bad Championship squad either.
Right, hang on - you say we'd 'return a profit on the vast amount of the squad' and then you only name 4, 2 of which I'd named. And if you think we'd make a profit on a players who between them have played a grand total of 19 games for us..... you seriously, SERIOUSLY, think we'd get £6-8m for Ince? If we get that we've done a better job than Zamparini did with Hernandez....
Ince has got 10 in 16 for Derby from the wing. They're desperate to sign him and their fans are talking about similar figures. He's still young and although he wasn't great for us, he guarantee you goals in the Championship. Considering what promotion is worth and the money Championship clubs are starting to spend, around the £6m mark doesn't seem unfeasible.
I didn't include players I thought we'd want to keep.
Robertson
Brady
Rosenior
Meyler
Quinn
Aluko
Slight profit on McGregor
All the above we'd sell quite comfortably for more than what we paid. Only Meyler could be an exception
Whether you feel the Allams have done more good than bad, it is the fact that the bad things he has, and is doing, are not necessary and are not going to acheive the aims he says they will. For me it is the fact that a compromise on both the name change and the AIRCO arena could easily be found, but they refuse to do it, because they feel why should the fans and the FA dictate to them what happens at their club.
Oh come on, we've literally zero chance of profit on Rosie, Meyler, Quinn, Aluko or McGregor. As for Ince, we've just indicated in the media today that we're willing to sell. We'd do well to get our money back on him. And is it just me or has Derby's form miraculously dropped since they loaned Ince?
Derby were joint top when Ince signed. They've won 5 games in 3 months since he signed. They're not top anymore.
Bang ****ing on and exactly the point I was making. It's the same old story, our players suddenly become much better when they're either injured or go on elsewhere. Ince was never anything other than very, very average when he played for us and those banging on about his form at Derby seem to strangely overlook his spell at Forest.