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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Obadiah, Mar 15, 2015.

  1. Chilton's Hundreds

    Chilton's Hundreds Well-Known Member

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    Hence is stance with Burnsy last week. It's now a face-saving exercise for Ehab.
     
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  2. Obadiah

    Obadiah Well-Known Member

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    Its the Premier League not the FA. The Premier League will look pretty silly if they agree the Category 2 Academy and Hull City Council evict Hull City AFC from the arena. One of the requirements of the audit is a valid lease for the full season, ie next season. Difficult to see how Hull City AFC meet that requirement.
     
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  3. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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    It isn't the Premier League, it's the FA's Professional Game Board who have appointed Belgian company Double Pass to carry out the independent audit.

    The SMC have a fifty year lease on the facility they're proposing to use, unless HCC commence proceedings to terminate the lease before the audit, it will have no bearing on their decision(and as you know, I believe the chances of HCC commencing proceedings against the SMC are just shy of zero).
     
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  4. Muffinthegoat

    Muffinthegoat Well-Known Member

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    So, what happens if the audit goes ahead and City receive the required status, and the council then take steps to terminate the lease? Can the academy status be revoked?
     
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  5. Chilton's Hundreds

    Chilton's Hundreds Well-Known Member

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    Whatever the outcome it's a ****-up of monumental proportions that makes the football club look unprofessional.
     
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  6. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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    I've no idea what the rules are, presumably they could have the status revoked, but court action would take months, possibly years, so they'd get the use of it initially anyway. That's the reason HCC will take no action, everyone will have moved on and found new homes before the council could actually achieve anything and it would all be pointless.
     
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  7. Obadiah

    Obadiah Well-Known Member

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    My apologies. As its the Premier League's rules I thought they made the decision.

    Double Pass as part of their audit will look at the agreement Hull City Tigers Limited has with the SMC. They will be aware that the Council is in dispute with the SMC. They could ignore all that, ignore the extensive use clause and give Category 2 Academy status to Hull City.

    It then comes down to the Council. You think they'll do nothing, you may be right, an interesting gamble.

    Do you know whether Hull City AFC have joined in with the Council's request to have the audit postponed?
     
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  8. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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    Obviously not, it's City who demanded that it was done immediately.
     
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  9. originallambrettaman

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    It also means that HCC have written to the wrong organisation.
     
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    "extensive" use or "exclusive" use at all times?
     
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    Obadiah Well-Known Member

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    Obadiah Well-Known Member

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    As a professional organisation the Premier League will pass it on or tell the Council who to get in touch with. Same with the MPs letters.
     
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  13. DMD

    DMD Eh? Forum Moderator

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    Aren't the independent bods acting 'on behalf of' so possibly the Prem are the main point of initial contact?
     
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  14. The Omega Man

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    It the SMC is in breach of the lease it will be asked to comply or the lease will ne forfeited. the SMC could apply for relief from forfeiture but that is all. That is provided there is a clause in the lease that allows for forfeiture. My guess is that in order to determine what consistues community use specifics would have to be listed on the lease.
     
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  15. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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    BBC Radio Humberside ‏@RadioHumberside
    NEWS: Hull City Council have written to the premier league in the hope that Hull's Airco arena might yet be saved for grass roots sports.

    Have they written to the wrong organisation again, or has it just taken them over a week to actually post the first letter? :emoticon-0112-wonde
     
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  16. Amin Yapusi

    Amin Yapusi Well-Known Member

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    Has this pitch not been layed yet ffs?

    Whens the academy audit? The club need to pull their fingers out and crack on with it, we don't want to fail again.
     
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  17. Amin Yapusi

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    The FA's sole use rule has leeway, I've just found out that Leicester City rent out their indoor facility to local 5 and 6 a side leagues.
     
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  18. DMD

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    Is that something they've done for several years? I think some of the clubs have different measures due to grandfather rights, and rules not always being retrospective. I think it's stricter with new applications, but could well imagine there's flexibility even then.
     
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  19. Amin Yapusi

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    It's a relatively new facility, only about 3 years old I think. I remember the plans and the completion for leicesters new training facilities and it wasn't long ago.
     
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    I've no idea if it affects it but the sole use rule is a PL rule as part of the EPPP and it applies to the audit. You can use the facility how you like, the sole use thing only affects whether we get Category 2 status.
     
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