Skrtel charged with violent conduct

[Treble]

So you accept he has then.

I've never doubted his credentials as a manager(would be daft to do so) but his frailties as a person are evident.

Him telling his adoring press in 2005 he was sending the AC Milan manager a bottle of his best wine to celebrate their victory against us certainly endeared him to us.

I honestly dont see that. The whole thing is a pantomime and I doubt it was anything more to him. Just like Mourinho...no wonder both got on so well. I'm sure the two chuckled over a glass of wine at how much the fans and media lapped up their stringpulling. I've never been offended by Mourhino and consider him a winner, I just dislike his footballing philosophy.

 

[Treble]

Ferguson: ''Benítez called Everton a small club, which just points to his arrogance,"

Fast forward City put up a sky-blue billboard with the words "Welcome to Manchester" under a picture of their new signing, Carlos Tevez.
Ferguson: ''"It's City isn't it? They are a small club with a small mentality...''

Which must mean that by his own standards, Ferguson himself is arrogant?

Benitez never actually used the words 'small club' in reference to Everton.

Pure pantomime, it's just a shame you (and the fat spanish waiter) allowed yourselves to get so wound up by it. The fault lies with yourselves not with Fergie for tieing yourselves in knots over it

 

[johnsonsbaby]

Pure pantomime, it's just a shame you (and the fat spanish waiter) allowed yourselves to get so wound up by it. The fault lies with yourselves not with Fergie for tieing yourselves in knots over it

Wound up The only ones wound up with the comment were Everton and their fans.

Benitez was the only manager who stood up to Fergie's moaning, whinging and arrogance [yes how alike are he and Mourinho ] ... by countering his whinges with his fackts ......

Ferguson was, is and always will be a horrible individual, who did great at his job and that's it.

 

[johnsonsbaby]

Also you can't call his shenanigans pantomime when a lot of the stuff he did was behind closed doors until those he did it to, brought it out in public. The 'mind games' I will give you, it's part of the game

 

[Page_Moss_Kopite]

Pure pantomime, it's just a shame you (and the fat spanish waiter) allowed yourselves to get so wound up by it. The fault lies with yourselves not with Fergie for tieing yourselves in knots over it

You(in the words of John McEnroe) can't be serious, if someone legitimately criticises him over something crass, hypocrital etc its because we heard it or saw it happen, whether Benitez hated him or not is nothing to do with it.

 

[Page_Moss_Kopite]

"Ferguson recently admitted that his only regret was not matching Paisley's three European Cups at Manchester United.

While Ferguson won 1.46 trophies per season in 26 seasons at United, Paisley achieved 2.22 per season."

And there lies the root of his still burning hatred of LFC.

 

[Treble]

Wound up The only ones wound up with the comment were Everton and their fans.

Benitez was the only manager who stood up to Fergie's moaning, whinging and arrogance [yes how alike are he and Mourinho ] ... by countering his whinges with his fackts ......

Ferguson was, is and always will be a horrible individual, who did great at his job and that's it.

Listen to yourself. You're whinging about petty nonsense. You honestly believe Benitez came out of that "standing up" as anything other than a laughing stock? He fell for Fergie's mind games hook line and sinker. Ofcourse it's a pantomime...and Rafa was the pantomime horse. We won the title. All it ever proved as I keep pointing out is Fergie was a winner. Fergie was ruthless and thankfully he was ours. I can totally understand why rivals feel bitter and desperate to berate him.

 

[Jürgenmeiʃter]

Leave Treble alone and stop bullying him

He is one of very very few Mancs on here who are reasonable and not biased usually

UIR and Shteve, fill your boots!

 

[saintanton]

Pure pantomime, it's just a shame you (and the fat spanish waiter) allowed yourselves to get so wound up by it. The fault lies with yourselves not with Fergie for tieing yourselves in knots over it

Can't you imagine a situation where we can express disapprobation without actually being "wound up" about it?
I found some of Fergie's characteristics pretty grim, but I can assure you I wasn't jumping up and down or foaming at the mouth over it-it's an observation.
Your defence seems to contain the suggestion that all his bad traits are forgiveable because they contributed to his success, and that's the most important thing. I wonder would you show the same level of understanding for...oh, let's say, Luis Suarez?
Surely the biting, swan- diving and arm-waving were all just aspects of the lovable rogue's brilliance as a footballer?

 

[Ivan Dobsky]

Listen to yourself. You're whinging about petty nonsense. You honestly believe Benitez came out of that "standing up" as anything other than a laughing stock? He fell for Fergie's mind games hook line and sinker. Ofcourse it's a pantomime...and Rafa was the pantomimme horse. We won the title. All it ever proved as I keep pointing out is Fergie was a winner. Fergie was ruthless and thankfully he was ours. I can totally understand why rivals feel bitter and desperate to berate him.

I can't think of anyone, in all fairness, including Clough, Shankly, Paisley and even Busby who could have won that title in 2013 by (12?) points with that squad. Okay, it was Van Persie's swansong and all, but we could see the following year under Moyes, and even up until this last month with Van Gaal, and with how many hundreds of millions of pounds spent over the last two years, that was actually some achievement. ****er.

 

[Treble]

Can't you imagine a situation where we can express disapprobation without actually being "wound up" about it?
I found some of Fergie's characteristics pretty grim, but I can assure you I wasn't jumping up and down or foaming at the mouth over it-it's an observation.
Your defence seems to contain the suggestion that all his bad traits are forgiveable because they contributed to his success, and that's the most important thing. I wonder would you show the same level of understanding for...oh, let's say, Luis Suarez?
Surely the biting, swan- diving and arm-waving were all just aspects of the lovable rogue's brilliance as a footballer?

When he wins something. He's world class no doubt about it but there's a difference between wumming and biting someone's ear off lol. Maradona for me was just the best player I'd ever seen. Pietersen one of the best batsmen I've ever seen. They're winners not perfect human beings but then who is.

 

[Jürgenmeiʃter]

I can't think of anyone, in all fairness, including Clough, Shankly, Paisley and even Busby who could have won that title in 2013 by (12?) points with that squad. Okay, it was Van Persie's swansong and all, but we could see the following year under Moyes, and even up until this last month with Van Gaal, and with how many hundreds of millions of pounds spent over the last two years, that was actually some achievement. ****er.

Really poor league that year Donga, thats why

 

[Jürgenmeiʃter]

When he wins something. He's world class no doubt about it but there's a difference between wumming and biting someone's ear off lol. Maradona for me was just the best player I'd ever seen. Pietersen one of the best batsmen I've ever seen. They're winners not perfect human beings but then who is.

Hi

 

[Treble]

I can't think of anyone, in all fairness, including Clough, Shankly, Paisley and even Busby who could have won that title in 2013 by (12?) points with that squad. Okay, it was Van Persie's swansong and all, but we could see the following year under Moyes, and even up until this last month with Van Gaal, and with how many hundreds of millions of pounds spent over the last two years, that was actually some achievement. ****er.

It's got to be up there as one of his biggest achievements it's so ridiculous.

 

[Tobes]

Wound up The only ones wound up with the comment were Everton and their fans.

Benitez was the only manager who stood up to Fergie's moaning, whinging and arrogance [yes how alike are he and Mourinho ] ... by countering his whinges with his fackts ......

Ferguson was, is and always will be a horrible individual, who did great at his job and that's it.

Benitez got suckered by Ferguson and his fackhts speech was a complete embarrassment that signalled the beginning of the end of your title challenge that year.

 

[Jürgenmeiʃter]

Benitez got suckered by Ferguson IMO and his fackhts speech was a complete embarrassment IMO that signalled the beginning of the end of your title challenge that year IMO.

Fixed

 

[Tobes]

Fixed

In the opinion of everyone barring blinkered kopites

 

[Page_Moss_Kopite]

Benitez got suckered by Ferguson and his fackhts speech was a complete embarrassment that signalled the beginning of the end of your title challenge that year.

What position did "fackts speech"play and what number was on his shirt?

The season caved in due to what happened on the pitch not off it.

Only blinkered Evertonians and mancs would think otherwise.

 

[Super G Ted'inho]

Skrtel will be a big miss IMO, really need Toure or Lovren to step up in his absence.

 

[Germlands Nozzer]

Skrtel will be a big miss IMO, really need Toure or Lovren to step up in his absence.

Isn't Lovren injured though?