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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by East_Stand_Always, Mar 18, 2015.

  1. Fez

    Fez Well-Known Member

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    I think Burns and his editorial team have finally realised that, apart from the simpering sops of this forum who support AA, most folk want an end to his lies and deceit; they are simply using social media as a tool of escalation.
     
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  2. Fez

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    Your initial response was only two words and you should note my use of the word infer - if you mention Jimmy Savile, as you did, then I think most folk will jump to sex offences. You did qualify your intention, but that came later.
     
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  3. bum_chinned_crab

    bum_chinned_crab Well-Known Member

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    Another poster - not me - said he wouldnt criticise someone because of the good they do for charity. I responded with a high profile example of when that shouldnt be the case. How is that my fault if people jump to massively misguided conclusions?
     
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  4. Fez

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    Filey posted and then you did, as you can see.

    Your last point is incorrect, Filey sply said that he would not call him names, not that anyone else should not; unless, of course, you accept it might infer that. :emoticon-0117-talki Off out, catch you later.
     
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  5. bum_chinned_crab

    bum_chinned_crab Well-Known Member

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    I really dont know what you're on about now as you just made my case for me.
     
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  6. Fez

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    No, you're jumping the conversation time-line is all. Bye
     
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  7. bum_chinned_crab

    bum_chinned_crab Well-Known Member

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    So I have to point out my specific meaning in every single post I make because people cannot or choose not to read what i say and instead decide what they think I meant? Gotcha.
     
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  8. Happy Tiger

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    That's not how journalism works. Burns and his team, more likely his managers, have realised the angst ridden noisy protesting minority will promote anything that seems to be Anti Allam, thus making their job of advertising their products much easier.

    Why appeal to be people that actually couldn't give a **** one way or the other, even if they are the huge silent majority? They're unlikely to even read or listen to stuff.

    There's no mileage in those of us who appreciate what the owners are doing, we're not the ones with the axe to grind.

    The group led by ex militants, *ex lads* and ex protesters, who are desperate to be going up against "the man" again, are a much more attractive group to appeal to, and easier to use too for listening and viewing figure increases. Plus of course, retweets.
     
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  9. originallambrettaman

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    Assem Allam fled from the Gamel Abdel Nasser regime in Egypt to the United Kingdom back in 1968. Allam made the city of Hull his new home, studying economics at the University of Hull. After university he worked as an accountant before taking out a loan and embarking upon his own business venture and eventually leading Allam Marine to international success. Cairo-born, Allam has always spoken of his gratitude to the city and people of Hull and stated that was his main reason behind buying the club in 2010. Following relegation from the Premier League, the club were in financial disarray and the Allam’s intervention prevented inevitable spiraling down the divisions, as we have seen with the likes of Portsmouth in recent years. Allam brought in Steve Bruce as manager of the team and gave him considerable support in the transfer market. Bruce repaid the faith by guiding Hull City to promotion in Bruce’s first season at the helm. In the second season, Hull City achieved their first ever FA Cup final, their highest ever league finish and ensured their first ever taste of European football for the following campaign.

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    All of this sounds very good, and it is. However, after such an array of quite remarkable and honourable achievements, one would expect Assem Allam to be hailed as a hero in East Yorkshire. And to some, he is. To many, though, Allam has sullied his legacy at the KC Stadium. Given what he has achieved it would not have been difficult for Assem Allam to go down as probably the greatest owner in the clubs 111-year history, or at least on par with the great Harold Needler. As it happens, a number of Hull City fans would happily see the back of their ‘saviour’ and reveled in his ultimately untrue claims to walk away from the club within 24 hours should their name change application be rejected by the FA.

    On August 9 2013, Assem Allam announced his intention to market the club as Hull City Tigers domestically and Hull Tigers internationally. This seemed an odd decision and one that not particularly well-grounded or justified. Allam claimed the name would make for more effective marketing, brand recognition and increased revenue, although he struggled to provide any genuine evidence that this was the case. Many saw the move as a somewhat petty tact to remove the clubs association with Hull City Council, of whom Allam had and continuous to have an obvious animosity with ever since he failed to strike a deal giving him ownership of the KC Stadium and surrounding areas. Unsurprisingly, Allam’s name change idea was met with fairly swift opposition but given his popularity prior to the decision, many were happy to let him put across his argument before making any final decision. It was here that the tide of popular opinion began to waver.

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    Allam, it is fair to say, is a PR disaster. First stating that “Hull City is irrelevant…it is common,” he went on to say, when questioned about the opposition group ‘City Till We Die’, that they “can die as soon as they want.” Allam prompted not only anger but ridicule from his comments in the media, once stating that if he were the manager of Manchester City he would change their name to Manchester Hunter, these comments coming moments after he had talked of the importance of a shorter name. Allam seemed to care not for the views of the community he so emphatically claimed to care for less than 3 years earlier. When he eventually gave the fans a voice it was in the form of a heavily loaded ballot which the FA disregarded when they came to make their decision.

    Unanimous groans could be heard throughout East Yorkshire when it was announced that the club would be allowed to reapply for a name change once more, following the initial rejection. Many fans oppose the name change, many are disinterested and a few even support the change, but now as the divisive move heads towards two years since Allam announced his intentions, almost all are sick and tired of the whole situation. Whilst the club may been enveloped in a relegation battle, it is worth remembering that this season and the two prior to it, are three of the finest in the club’s history. They should be a time of joy, as the fans witness probably the strongest Hull City squad ever assembled. Instead, they represent a period in which fans are divided and a stealth re-branding of the club is taking place, alienating and disillusioning long-term fans.

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    A year ago, most Hull City fans hoped an FA rejection of the decision would put the situation to bed and Assem Allam could continue on what had been a very successful four years at the helm. A year later, it appears that is not the case and it seems unlikely to resolve itself anytime soon. In truth, Allam is a man of many contradictions. He claims to be a man of his word, yet he goes back on what he has said time and time again. He claims the community is his first interest, yet treats the opinions of Hull fans with disdain and, to quote the FA as “irrelevant, or barely relevant.” He claims his financial contribution to the club is a “gift”, whilst charging 5% interest on all loans made to the club.

    It is of course hyperbolic when people liken Allam to the dictatorship he fled, but he does display a wholly disagreeable arrogance, a lack of willing to consider the views of others (which he has, at least, conceded himself) and a distasteful bully-like attitude when he fails to get his own way. Sadly, it seems unlikely any swift resolution will come to the situation at the KC Satdium. Hull City fans will most likely have to put up with a prolonged application, bizarre press conferences and rather embarrassing utterances, just as they have over the last few seasons once more. A self-confessed none footballing fan, Allams Hull City venture was most likely intended to increase his local legacy, however, he seems more likely to tarnish it with every passing day.

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    http://soccerlens.com/divisive-figure-assem-allam/165558/
     
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  10. BOJACKHCAFCMAN

    BOJACKHCAFCMAN Well-Known Member

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    So what you are saying is that the club should change the name because most people 'don't give a ****'? If they 'don't give a ****' then they aren't fans and who cares what they think!
     
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  11. Chazz Rheinhold

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  12. bum_chinned_crab

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    Didnt really need a new thread did it? Or is this further exposure for Jnr.....?
     
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  13. originallambrettaman

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    Fair comment, now merged.
     
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  14. Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC

    Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC Well-Known Member

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    Jeez, Happy - you do come out with some (blinkered) ****e.

    More and more of it, as time goes by.

    (Thought of changing your User Name to 'Canute'?)
     
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  15. Kempton

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    I think he's funny Stan. Im enjoying his desperation <laugh>
     
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  16. Charon

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    http://www.britishegyptiansociety.org.uk/en/conference/speakers/speakers-day-2/

    according to his own cv - he fled Egypt in 1968 - also he completed his Post Graduate Diploma in Business Administration in 1968, so still felt comfortable enough in Egypt to allow him the freedom to sit and pass his exams - he was also Senior Auditor for Egyptian Ministry of Finance in 1968 - he was imprisoned and tortured and then fled in 1968 - doesn't look as if he's quite got his story timelines sorted out - just look at my cv - we are - it appears you had a very busy couple of months in the summer of 68 - pass exams, get job, speak out, get imprisoned, get tortured, get released, escape to England - all in 8 weeks or so - we're impressed!!
     
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    And whilst doing all that sell of all of your assets to get cash, only to find when depositing it in a British bank its all fake. And to top it all, the bank rather than call the police give you 20 quid to help you on your way.
     
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  18. Charon

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    hilarious - exactly!!
     
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    Yeah it's called bending the truth
     
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  20. PLT

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    He just says what he wants us to hear. I can't believe people pay this nonsense so much respect.

    A year ago it was all about how he was going to sell. That was the threat. No one really believed him or, more importantly, cared.

    Now he needs a new threat. It's come up again, he's not getting his own way again and he needs a new threat. Well he'll sell us to someone 'even worse'.

    How would he even know what a bad owner looks like? This is a guy that genuinely thinks he's ace and that Adam Pearson was a ****. He's completely out of touch with other chairman. Basically he knows **** all.

    He's just desperate to be loved, respected, or even just noticed and listened to. He really wants us to care and be scared of a new owner. This talk of selling to a good home was always utter bollocks. He was never going to sell before the arbitration decision and he still won't sell until the whole thing is done.

    I wouldn't put it past him to try and **** something up for us on his way out once he finally accepts his name change thing isn't happening ever, but we can't live in fear of him and this kind of bullying.
     
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