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Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by astro, Feb 5, 2014.

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If Everton beat West Ham will the BBC do a top 7?

Poll closed Mar 1, 2014.
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  1. Page_Moss_Kopite

    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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  2. Thus Spake Zarathustra

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    Hmmm, I can see us getting fifth (or sixth), but I can't see City slipping to fourth. Think third is between Utd and Arsenal.
     
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  3. FedLadSonOfAnfield

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    It's just the way he's managed to engineer it so that Utd finish as high as possible and us and City are pushed as far down as possible <steam>
     
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  4. Page_Moss_Kopite

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    Phil Neville on clubs wasting English talent by opting for average foreign imports.

    Path to the first team blocked
    "Southampton have a pathway to the first-team. It doesn't stop at 19 when they go abroad for a player. It carries right on to the first-team. From the age of 10, at Manchester United and Southampton, there is a clear pathway to the first-team. But at other clubs, that pathway becomes a dead end at 19."


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    Neville singles out Manchester United, Southampton, Everton and Aston Villa for praise in giving young players a chance.

    Indeed, a member of the famous "Class of 92", Neville says the group he belonged to would still emerge in the modern game because United remain committed to youth development under Louis van Gaal."

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32015909

    Someone should remind the tosser that Ferguson was at Utd for 7 years before "the class of 92" emerged and that Van Gaal hasnt "developed" any youth at OT, he's simply made use of what he found there when he arrived and only used them due to injuries to senior players.
    Neville also manages to shoe in Utd when praising clubs for bringing English youths through the ranks, there are other clubs that have done just that besides them Southampton, Everton and Villa, West Ham and us for example, not that they became full international players though.

    Van Gaal is also responsible for breaking a proud Utd tradition dating back to the 1930's of naming at least one homegrown youth player in every matchday squad spanning 3,730 games.

    LVG making a liar out of Neville a day before he did his interview.:biggrin:
     
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  5. Diego

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    Januzaj and Pereira were on the bench (in squad), nice try <ok>
     
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  6. Page_Moss_Kopite

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    Pereira bought by Utd from PSV

    Januzaj bought by Utd from Anderlecht

    Never came through the Utd ranks from 10 years of age and were not those players 1st and only club.
     
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  7. Diego

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    Both classed as home grown and both played for youth and under 21 teams <ok>
     
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  8. Page_Moss_Kopite

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    You're moving the goalposts Diego.<grr>

    Two can play that game, so Falcao and Valdes can also be added to your list because they've played for Utd U-21's.<whistle>
     
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    The likes of McIlroy and Whiteside and Cleverly and Welbeck etc could rightly be said to be Utd products but Januzaj and Pereira don't meet the criteria.:emoticon-0145-shake
     
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    PNev is yet another example of the myth that prominent ex-players must know something about the game.
    I don't find his voice as annoying as some clearly do, but he never has anything illuminating, or even vaguely interesting, to say.
    You'd think that footballers of the modern era had enough money to retire on without feeling the need to make tits of themselves in the media to earn a crust.
     
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    The beeb assumed he would be a clone of his brother and bring enlightenment to the football masses, unfortunately the brothers are chalk and cheese when it comes to talking football.
     
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  12. Chalk and cheese when they played too
     
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  13. Page_Moss_Kopite

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    Very true.

    <ok>
     
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  14. Diego

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    The record you mentioned is in relation to home grown players, both Januzaj and Pereira fit this description.
     
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  15. Diego

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    Don`t think it`s the money Saint, i think it`s the limelight/fame they can`t let go of.
     
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    Nah, that makes the tradition a load of bollocks Diego, a Uefa/FA rule on foreign players being classed as home players can't hide the fact that they never began their careers with Utd and that it wasn't Utd that first scouted their talent out.

    Its like when Fergie used to take all the credit for Rooney when it was EFC scouts and youth and 1st team staff that put him on the road to stardom in the game.

    The tradition was over the last Sunday.:biggrin:
     
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  17. Diego

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    So who was on the bench the game before to keep it going?
     
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  18. saintanton

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    Yeah, I wasn't being entirely serious with the money thing. I think a lot of ex-players genuinely believe that having played the game somehow automatically makes them expert in analysis of it.
    Unfortunately they don't have to say much for that fallacy to be exposed.
    Rat-boy Gary Neville is a stark exception to that rule- surprisingly even-handed (most of the time) and capable of genuine footballing insight.
    Who'd have thought it? :)
     
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  19. Diego

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    Not sure if he could be a manager but he would make a really good coach, as would Carragher.
     
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  20. Page_Moss_Kopite

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    Stop nitpicking.<grr>

    It doesn't matter which game it was but the tradition is over.<whistle>
     
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