Protest March on Sunday

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TygerTyger said:
Can I just ask a couple of questions, if anyone out there knows the answers:

1) Could the "evicted" tenants afford to stay at Airco if the SMC didn't subsidise?

2) What would Hull City Council do with the KC if Hull City AFC moved elsewhere?

My point is viability. It seems to me that although relations between the various parties are pretty strained, they are actually in a somewhat symbiotic relationship, each helping the other out.

I have no "political" slant on this, it just seems that the SMC is trying to do what is best for its biggest contributor. Obviously this is compounded by the involvement of the Allams, but what would you do if you were in their position?
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1) Not sure, you'd have to ask the individual users. I suspect some would be able to find the money, others wouldn't.

2) That's complicated, it would depend on how Hull City AFC left. If the lease stayed with the SMC it would be responsible for maintaining the stadium but without Hull City AFC's rent. If the Council and the SMC agreed to terminate the lease then they would struggle.

Ideally the Allams and Hull City Council would sit down and sort out a mutually beneficial way forward. From the outside it looks quite straightforward, build an indoor pitch, extend the stadium and develop the area around the KC. The result might not be as spectacular as the Etihad be we would end up with something a lot better than we've got now.

Sorry I cannot be clearer.
 
Chazz Rheinhold said:
Apparently a march is going to take place at 2pm from the 3G pitch to the KC. We dont want this disrupting a crucial game for our team.

Anyone who marches is obviously an enemy of our club. Lets hope its just some fat birds on roller skates.
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More likely to be a bunch of sad b'stards who have nothing better to do on a sunday. :emoticon-0102-bigsm

A good target mind if the fire brigaide want some target practice. ;)
 
Chazz Rheinhold said:
Again you have no idea what went on and assume things but feel every thing should be run by you first.
What Allam dontates out of his personal wealth or doesnt is up to him yet you make a snide comment about him him giving that money to us.
You dont know it breaches as you dont know the terms of the lease but want to assume it says what you want.

Our club is competent enough to do this in the fullness of time, as it is they are playing catch up cos of Adam Pearson doing **** all for years. You have no idea about our revenue streams and how and where money is allocated. But constantly bang on about how much money we are getting from being in the PL and how he should be doing this or that.
He's upped the budget from 700 grand to 2 million and more will be spent subject to lots of different things.

But its just bang bang with negativity.
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I don't assume the lease says what I want. Councillor Brady says it includes community use and he can't evict the groups. I presume he's seen it which is why he's written to the SMC to discuss it. Whether they have the balls to do anything different is another question.
 
Obi, Angus Young has a copy of the lease, I assume he'll be giving some sort of indication of what it says, though he'll be fairly limited, it's obviously a confidential document.
 
Obadiah said:
1) Not sure, you'd have to ask the individual users. I suspect some would be able to find the money, others wouldn't.

2) That's complicated, it would depend on how Hull City AFC left. If the lease stayed with the SMC it would be responsible for maintaining the stadium but without Hull City AFC's rent. If the Council and the SMC agreed to terminate the lease then they would struggle.

Ideally the Allams and Hull City Council would sit down and sort out a mutually beneficial way forward. From the outside it looks quite straightforward, build an indoor pitch, extend the stadium and develop the area around the KC. The result might not be as spectacular as the Etihad be we would end up with something a lot better than we've got now.

Sorry I cannot be clearer.
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No, thank you, I think you've been as clear as you can be.

as far as 1) is concerned I suspect you are right. Which I guess begs the question Why don't they increase their rents to cover the shortfall from those who can't afford it? I think they may be reticent to do that, and I don't blame them. So they may have some sympathy with the Allams position (though I doubt it).

As for 2) I see your point re the nature of the rift and the lease. Like you I think without Hull City the KC would be a White Elephant of Humber Bridge proportions for the council. But then without the KC (currently) Hull City would be buggered. Seems they both have no option but to live with each other.
 
Chazz Rheinhold said:
Again you have no idea what went on and assume things but feel every thing should be run by you first.
What Allam dontates out of his personal wealth or doesnt is up to him yet you make a snide comment about him him giving that money to us.
You dont know it breaches as you dont know the terms of the lease but want to assume it says what you want.

Our club is competent enough to do this in the fullness of time, as it is they are playing catch up cos of Adam Pearson doing **** all for years. You have no idea about our revenue streams and how and where money is allocated. But constantly bang on about how much money we are getting from being in the PL and how he should be doing this or that.
He's upped the budget from 700 grand to 2 million and more will be spent subject to lots of different things.

But its just bang bang with negativity.
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We're trying to build a Premier League quality academy, how can you blame Adam Pearson for us not having one already, we weren't a Premier League club when he was in charge. <doh>
 
Obadiah said:
I don't assume the lease says what I want. Councillor Brady says it includes community use and he can't evict the groups. I presume he's seen it which is why he's written to the SMC to discuss it. Whether they have the balls to do anything different is another question.
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Does he where does he say that?
You do assume as you havent seen it. If the term community use is used that can be manipulated. Mixed use is the term I've seen. Squash and football, there you go, job done.
 
PLT said:
We're ****ed aren't we? I thought we might beat Chelsea until I heard some people might be rollerblading down the walkways 2 hours before the game. How are the players gonna focus with all that going on?
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Yeah right. <yikes> They might find it funny but they wont give it anymore thought than that. As if ffs.......
 
originallambrettaman said:
We're trying to build a Premier League quality academy, how can you blame Adam Pearson for us not having one already, we weren't a Premier League club when he was in charge. <doh>
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Cat 2 Academy. You like googling tell me the other Cat 2 academies.

He did **** all for the academy, just admit it you'll feel better.
 
Chazz Rheinhold said:
Does he where does he say that?
You do assume as you havent seen it. If the term community use is used that can be manipulated. Mixed use is the term I've seen. Squash and football, there you go, job done.
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It might be a little difficult to play squash in there, what with it being a 3G pitch with no squash courts.

I suspect the lease has something vague about 'community sport use' and the limited access by schools to play football will be enough to get him round the issue, not that I think the council would do **** all anyway.
 
Obadiah said:
http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Coun...ntinue-using/story-26202675-detail/story.html
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Not seen that. Idle posturing. The letter will be ignored, more bluster in the paper from career politicians panicing about having to do something. I hope Allam makes Geraghty Brady and Bayes crawl on all fours.
originallambrettaman said:
It might be a little difficult to play squash in there, what with it being a 3G pitch with no squash courts.

I suspect the lease has something vague about 'community sport use' and the limited access by schools to play football will be enough to get him round the issue, not that I think the council would do **** all anyway.
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Temporary floor going to be laid for squash.
originallambrettaman said:
We had an academy in line with our league position, now we don't, it's a hell of a stretch to try and blame Pearson for our current issues.
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We were getting huge gates in Div 2 and Div 1 and were in the Championship when he left. Nowt changed in that time, no money went to the juniors.
 
Obadiah said:
1) Not sure, you'd have to ask the individual users. I suspect some would be able to find the money, others wouldn't.

2) That's complicated, it would depend on how Hull City AFC left. If the lease stayed with the SMC it would be responsible for maintaining the stadium but without Hull City AFC's rent. If the Council and the SMC agreed to terminate the lease then they would struggle.

Ideally the Allams and Hull City Council would sit down and sort out a mutually beneficial way forward. From the outside it looks quite straightforward, build an indoor pitch, extend the stadium and develop the area around the KC. The result might not be as spectacular as the Etihad be we would end up with something a lot better than we've got now.

Sorry I cannot be clearer.
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In reply to the cost issue for users, it would first be necessary to do a true costing for the arena.

Without knowing this it's impossible to know if any of the clubs could afford it or not.
 
Chazz Rheinhold said:
Not seen that. Idle posturing. The letter will be ignored, more bluster in the paper from career politicians panicing about having to do something. I hope Allam makes Geraghty Brady and Bayes crawl on all fours.
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As I said, whether the Council has the balls to do anything is another matter.

If there is any doubt about Hull City AFC's tenancy at the Airco Arena the Premier League will turn down the application for Category 2 status. Being in this position is what I meant by incompetence. There should have been no doubts about us getting through.

The last sentence made me laugh out loud.
 
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