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John Cardew said:
You'd want to believe this is just a fantasist young lass, however the police had at least enough evidence to obtain a warrant which would have to be more than just a 15 year old girl saying she slept with someone. We'll see though, like everyone else I have no idea about the exact circumstances.

What I wanted to pick up on was the people on this thread who seem t have this naiveity about the CP and their intentions. Trust me when I say this, they care not about your innocence or guilt, they care about whether or not they can get a charge against you and that's all. The police force is corrupt at the top and make no mistake. To everyone, I would really urge never to speak to police without legal representation, under any circumstances. Just make that a little rule for yourselves. "If you are innocent you have nothing to fear" sadly never has been or will be the case.
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A little white lie that has gotten way out of hand
 
John Cardew said:
Really? A minor making an allegation is enough to obtain a warrant to tip a house upside down? Fair enough, I believe you, I'm sure you know more about it than me. Incredibly surprising, that's all.
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Yes it is and it was her father that went to the cops by all accounts who later or are now investigating what he read on her twitter/facebook account of her bragging (alledgedly)
 
John Cardew said:
You'd want to believe this is just a fantasist young lass, however the police had at least enough evidence to obtain a warrant which would have to be more than just a 15 year old girl saying she slept with someone. We'll see though, like everyone else I have no idea about the exact circumstances.

What I wanted to pick up on was the people on this thread who seem t have this naiveity about the CP and their intentions. Trust me when I say this, they care not about your innocence or guilt, they care about whether or not they can get a charge against you and that's all. The police force is corrupt at the top and make no mistake. To everyone, I would really urge never to speak to police without legal representation, under any circumstances. Just make that a little rule for yourselves. "If you are innocent you have nothing to fear" sadly never has been or will be the case.
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My sentiments exactly, however, in present times with the high profile sexual abuse and police failings, I think the warrant would have been given considering the complaint came from a parent. If something did happen and the police didn't act on the first complaint it would create a political and media **** storm for the police.
 
Smug in Boots said:
Only because I'm not just making wild guesses unlike some people on this thread.
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Fair enough, I was just presuming to be fair, although I would never make any comment about his guilt or innocence. I just believed it would take more than an allegation to obtain a warrant, otherwise people's houses would be getting tipped upside down every other day.
 
Funky said:
My sentiments exactly, however, in present times with the high profile sexual abuse and police failings, I think the warrant would have been given considering the complaint came from a parent. If something did happen and the police didn't act on the first complaint it would create a political and media **** storm for the police.
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Excellent point the spotlight and scrutiny has really been turned up on these kinds of cases in the last couple of years.
 
John Cardew said:
That would seem to me the most logical explanation were it not for the fact that they've been able to search his home.
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They're taking an allegation seriously. Why wouldn't they search his house? It's the second thing I'd expect the police to do, right after taking him in.
 
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John Cardew said:
Fair enough, I was just presuming to be fair, although I would never make any comment about his guilt or innocence. I just believed it would take more than an allegation to obtain a warrant, otherwise people's houses would be getting tipped upside down every other day.
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If the alleged offence took place at a particular address the police have absolutely no option but to search it.

What you believe bears no relation to fact.
 
John Cardew said:
That would seem to me the most logical explanation were it not for the fact that they've been able to search his home.
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Of course they can, who knows what has been said, they can look for traces of dna anywhere, bed, cars, kitchen bench, toilet wherever, to prove she was where she was when she said she was on social media
 
Blunham Mackem said:
They're taking an allegation seriously. Why wouldn't they search his house? It's the second thing I'd expect the police to do, right after taking him in.
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Because everyone has a certain right to privacy, which is the whole reason that warrants exist, to prevent people just having their privacy invaded on the back of nothing but allegations. I appreciate following other comments that it may have worked differently in this case though.
 
John Cardew said:
Because everyone has a certain right to privacy, which is the whole reason that warrants exist, to prevent people just having their privacy invaded on the back of nothing but allegations. I appreciate following other comments that it may have worked differently in this case though.
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A lovely thought but, again, not actually factual.
 
John Cardew said:
Because everyone has a certain right to privacy, which is the whole reason that warrants exist, to prevent people just having their privacy invaded on the back of nothing but allegations. I appreciate following other comments that it may have worked differently in this case though.
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A dawn raid on a home involving 5 vehicles and multiple officers wasnt exactly subtle
 
In order to search a home a magistrate has to be convinced that it is more likely than not that an offence has been committed there. One person's word against another just doesn't come under that bracket for me.
 
[QUOTE="John Cardew, post: 7694006, member: 1030523"]In order to search a home a magistrate has to be convinced that it is more likely than not that an offence has been committed there. One person's word against another just doesn't come under that bracket for me.[/QUOTE]

That's not true either.
 
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