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Spurs have been putting some Premier League era stuff on the official Youtube channel recently under a Throwback Spursday banner.
This week's one has some nice long range goals:
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Edman's screamer at Anfield and Poyet's delicate chip are the picks of the bunch, for me.
Special mention for Stephen Carr, too. Didn't score many, but when he did...
 
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PleaseNotPoll said:
Spurs have been putting some Premier League era stuff on the official Youtube channel recently under a Throwback Spursday banner.
This week's one has some nice long range goals:
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Edman's screamer at Anfield and Poyet's delicate chip are the picks of the bunch, for me.
Special mention for Stephen Carr, too. Didn't score many, but when he did...
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After spending a good few minutes trying to work out who scored at 0:35, I ended up having to Google it.

It's Sherwood, if anyone cares...
 
PleaseNotPoll said:
Spurs have been putting some Premier League era stuff on the official Youtube channel recently under a Throwback Spursday banner.
This week's one has some nice long range goals:
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Edman's screamer at Anfield and Poyet's delicate chip are the picks of the bunch, for me.
Special mention for Stephen Carr, too. Didn't score many, but when he did...
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Edman and Robbie Keane's pinged one with the outside of his foot stand out. How did Keane get so much pace on that ball?
 
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We Have,Lamela, lol.now we have to convince him
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I think that we'd get the best of him using him as backup and competition for Eriksen, in the hole behind the striker.
He's definitely got talent, but I don't think that playing wide right for us works to his advantage.
Scored plenty for Roma, but he's not come close to recreating this for us:
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Lots of rumours that Bentaleb's about to sign a new long-term deal. Deserves it.
He's got three years left on his current one.
 
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Is the training ground too new to be a factor in the sudden influx of decent youth players we have coming through after years and years of nothing (and Ledley)?
 
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Is the training ground too new to be a factor in the sudden influx of decent youth players we have coming through after years and years of nothing (and Ledley)?
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I'm going to assume that the NextGen tournament had something to do with it, as that was the time we started signing various prospects: Veljkovic, Coulibaly, Ceballos and Gomelt all joined in the summer of 2011, with Bentaleb joining in January 2012, which implies the club decided to play the long game in regards to FFP around that time.
 
I was looking at a picture of Bill Nicholson standing at the gates in front of the West Stand......and it struck me,again,.....with a lot of knighthoods given out to the football people....what did Bill do to not get one himself?

He managed the first team in the last century to win the double and the first British team to win a major European tournament.Spent nearly his whole life with Tottenham Hotspur,insisting that his teams play a wonderful brand of football,win or lose!

Did he not deserve one for all he did for the game?
 
bigsmithy9 said:
I was looking at a picture of Bill Nicholson standing at the gates in front of the West Stand......and it struck me,again,.....with a lot of knighthoods given out to the football people....what did Bill do to not get one himself?

He managed the first team in the last century to win the double and the first British team to win a major European tournament.Spent nearly his whole life with Tottenham Hotspur,insisting that his teams play a wonderful brand of football,win or lose!

Did he not deserve one for all he did for the game?
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Honours were handed out sparingly in those days, Smithy. Only Ramsey got one, And Busby. Ramsey for winning the world cup, and Busby for being the first English team to win The European Cup. Nowadays they're handed out like confetti.
 
bigsmithy9 said:
I was looking at a picture of Bill Nicholson standing at the gates in front of the West Stand......and it struck me,again,.....with a lot of knighthoods given out to the football people....what did Bill do to not get one himself?

He managed the first team in the last century to win the double and the first British team to win a major European tournament.Spent nearly his whole life with Tottenham Hotspur,insisting that his teams play a wonderful brand of football,win or lose!

Did he not deserve one for all he did for the game?
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Each and every one of Bill Nick, Brian Clough, Bill Shankly, Bob Paisley and Don Revie were awarded nothing higher than an OBE, while Jock Stein and Ron Greenwood were awarded slightly higher CBEs. What I always found surprising is that Bobby Moore was never given more than an OBE, given how Stanley Matthews was knighted in 1965.

It can be argues (very, very easily) that the honours system was exceptionally snobbish about who was awarded and purveyors of vulgar sports for the common oiks didn't fit the bill, and it is telling that the majority of honours given to footballers came in the past twenty years.
 
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Anyone watch the Tennis? What a performance from James Ward to beat John Isner, utterly engrossing.
 
humanbeingincroydon said:
Each and every one of Bill Nick, Brian Clough, Bill Shankly, Bob Paisley and Don Revie were awarded nothing higher than an OBE, while Jock Stein and Ron Greenwood were awarded slightly higher CBEs. What I always found surprising is that Bobby Moore was never given more than an OBE, given how Stanley Matthews was knighted in 1965.

It can be argues (very, very easily) that the honours system was exceptionally snobbish about who was awarded and purveyors of vulgar sports for the common oiks didn't fit the bill, and it is telling that the majority of honours given to footballers came in the past twenty years.
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Well said. Moore, Nicholson and Clough deserved high honours, given any crook that donates to a political party gets one.
 
Bill Nicholson certainly deserved one, but as has been alluded to, footballing knights were a rare breed until recent times when it has become more commonplace to knight sportsmen and women. Matthews was a superstar of his day, became European Footballer of the Year and played until he was 50 - so he was a special case. Busby was rewarded for his strength of character in winning the European Cup just 10 years after his team had been decimated in Munich blazing a trail for English teams in Europe.
 
Another honour eludes Spurs.Hugo loses out to the Chelsea goalkeeper.Now I don't get that one. A team that relies on a defensive screen gets their goalie an award for London's top goalie.While Hugo,playing behind a dodgy defence and playing great,does not.Something wrong there!
 
littleDinosaurLuke said:
Bill Nicholson certainly deserved one, but as has been alluded to, footballing knights were a rare breed until recent times when it has become more commonplace to knight sportsmen and women. Matthews was a superstar of his day, became European Footballer of the Year and played until he was 50 - so he was a special case. Busby was rewarded for his strength of character in winning the European Cup just 10 years after his team had been decimated in Munich blazing a trail for English teams in Europe.
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Bill Nicholson had already blazed a trail for British teams by becoming the first manager in Britain to win a European trophy!
....and remember,United,naturally were given a lot of sympathy after that terrible Munich disaster which is the reason United are probably the most famous British club since that moment!
I still have the Daily Mirror reporting that accident in my mementos.I have the last programme of United's last game v Arsenal before the crash,unfortunately a little torn.
 
Smithy, you could definitely argue that in a perverse way Munich made Utd, but only because Busby rebuilt the team quickly and played with flair and style epitomised by Best and Law. Would Spurs have won the Double had the Busby Babes survived? We'll never know. Had NIcholson triumphed over Busby's Babes in the early 60s assuming the crash hadn't happened, then he would have been the one getting the knighthood.
 
No I honestly believe that people began to follow United after the crash in sympathy.Hell,my brother in law in Cheshunt,Herts, is a United fan and he never leaves his chair or his telly! Busby was also practically given several very good players from other clubs so they could complete their games for the season....which helped because United got to Wembley before losing out to Villa albeit some naughty goalie bashing by a Villa forward.....name of Nat Lofthouse!
 
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