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Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by Bozz, Jun 17, 2011.

  1. Flappy Flanagan (JK)

    Flappy Flanagan (JK) Well-Known Member

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    I'm happy with Ings at the right fee, but I do have some concerns.

    Currently we have Sturridge, Balotelli, Lambert and Borini, but I expect Lambert and Borini to leave.

    If my expectations are correct and Ings also joins we will have Sturridge, Balotelli, Ings and Origi.

    That is not bad. In fact its a clear improvement as 3 of the players have a perfect style for our system and the other offers a good alternative options.

    But I would prefer some one better than Ings and Origi among those options, like Lacazette or Aubemeyang. If we signed Ings and some one better I feel we would be just stock piling players which I dont like, and Ings would just end up frustrated through a lack of games. Its also puting out a lot of excess wages. Have 5 strikers competing for 1 or 2 spots could also reduce young players chances of a game.

    The people in change of signings and money at LFC are very careful and cautious about these things so I think there is no way they would let the player stock pile form. So would signing Ings mean no big striker signing?
     
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  2. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    I dunno... I have an open mind.

    ings on a tribunal fee say of 3mil is nothing these days... so if you said to me well he is replacing lambert... (who should have gone to ****ing palace the mad man) then ok.. lambert can't run this lad can.

    If you said to me hey this is our main line purchase then no... **** that we need more if we even get in europa next year.

    So all in all.... I don't really know if he's got enough to develop to be actually good enough for a top 5 side which is what we eventually want all our players to be after all...

    SO yeah... borini and lambert and maybe balotelli have to go.... that would be my call anyway... if we bring this guy in and have jerome sinclair as a 19 year old then we need to BUY one front line striker to go with sturrdige

    My strategy this summer would be:

    a) get everyone signed up. coutinho, sturridge done, sterling? henderson ?
    b) sell off borini, lambert, balotelli
    c) buy ings as a young third option
    d) buy a new main line striker of real top 4 quality... 30mil
    e) look at other options for rest of pitch.... CM in particular. another 30mil

    For me ings makes sense in terms of being a cheap option as third line with sinclair as well potentially going even on loan for 6 months and then the money should go on a gerrard and balotelli replacement... we should be 100% better next year if we've two real first team players who have quality and can run and fit in.

    right now gerrard cna't run and balotelli doesn't fit so is a sub... 50 mil to 60mil... i hope there is suarez money from second installment payment there and also i hope CL money <laugh>
     
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  3. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    I actually forgot about origi... with him coming i certainly can see balotelli going as he would be that different option.

    can see then that sinclair should then go on loan for sure... use ings and origi as 3rd and 4th options in cups... or europa who knows... <laugh>

    i'd but that top top striker though... its madness to rely on sturridge.
     
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  4. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid Forum Moderator

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    £6m?! You're having a laugh. Will be most expensive Bosman signing in history.

    Reckon on it'll be about half that which isn't too bad
     
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  5. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Look it's not a free! It's an u24 so it is a tribunal

    However.... Burnett have said they'd rather his goals now and the expectation of a better fee off tribunal than sale on jan

    Therefore 4 or 5 mil might happen
     
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  6. Jimmy Squarefoot

    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

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    I rather we sign quality players who can go straight into the first team, before even looking at 3rd choice, squad players.
     
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  7. SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING

    SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING Well-Known Member

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    We need both. Our squad strength is better this year but not everything works out and we will need to let some squad players go and they will need to be replaced. Ings for £3 or £4 million is ok.
     
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  8. Jimmy Squarefoot

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    We need quality first teamers first and foremost.

    We're not going to get anywhere if we continue to sign lads from Soton or Danny Ings.

    We have a quality young player coming back, in Origi. Sell Lambert and Borini, and we'll have an attack of Mario, Sturridge and Origi. Then if needed ,buy a quality striker like Lacazette. Don't just buy someone like Ings because we need options.
     
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  9. SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING

    SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING Well-Known Member

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    I don't disagree in that we need to sign quality and that the first team needs to be strengthened, thus strengthening in depth naturally. However, FFP means that we can't simply sign up 22 players all on big money (unfortunately), not yet anyway. We'll need to blend in squad players (on lower money) and some kids. Whichever way you look at it, signing Ings will be profitable for the club and gives a half decent lad a chance to make the big time. It's good business all round. <ok>
     
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  10. SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING

    SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING Well-Known Member

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    BTW, Origi has not been great this year. He'll need a full season to get to grips with the way we play and the new league. It's not nailed on that he'll make it here so I'd rather not have him as a nailed on success before his arrival! Would love to buy Lacazette to give us a front 4 of Studge, Lacazette, Ings, Origi.

    Means Mario and Borini will need to be moved on though and there's no guarantee that either will want to leave <ok>
     
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  11. Flappy Flanagan (JK)

    Flappy Flanagan (JK) Well-Known Member

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    I reckon Balotelli will stay.

    Its useful to have a different type of striker and when paired with a fast runner he works well.
     
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    When paired with someone who does his work for him you mean? <laugh>

    He's never far away from the next headline. I say flog him and take a hit on him. £10m and he's yours!! <ok>
     
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  13. astro

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    Based on current form I'd want to at least break even or he can stay
     
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  14. SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING

    SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING Well-Known Member

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    We'd have written his value down by £5m this year. I'd take his book value and be happy <ok>
     
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  15. Jimmy Squarefoot

    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

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    Buying quality doesn't mean we have to spend a lot of money - Coutinho, Sturridge and Can cost around £30m.

    Alternatively, just because we spend big on one player does it mean that we've got quality i,.e. Lovren and Lallana.

    So I think we can still buy quality players who can come into the first team at affordable prices.
     
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  16. astro

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    I also want wages and expenses covered <ok>
     
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  17. FedLadSonOfAnfield

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    Borini will still be left behind waiting in the changing room for a place on the bench after all of us are dead <steam>
     
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  18. SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING

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    You mean fighting for his place on the bench, surely <laugh>
     
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  19. Of we're really going to sign him, we should do a deal with Real Sociedad. They sign him paying the £300k compo and then we but him from them for £3m. Everyone's a winner (bar Burnley)
     
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  20. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid Forum Moderator

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    Borini wil be off. Admire him wanting to fight for his place but not worked out and best for all of he moves on back to Italy or to a lower prem team.

    Shame me well prob only get about 6/7m for him and not the 14m could have got from Sunderland.
     
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