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Eyup ****

Why would you refer to an ex player as an "ex ****"? Especially one with the history Windass has. You wouldn't have if you'd ever seen him play. If you's supported the club in those days you'd understand.

****tard ****, no passion, loyalty or soul. PLW.
Like Ive repeatedly said in posts on here if you check, I think those who booed windass on New Years day are scumbags. I was just using the term **** in the same fondness way that you with me.
 
Like Ive repeatedly said in posts on here if you check, I think those who booed windass on New Years day are scumbags. I was just using the term **** in the same fondness way that you with me.
Agree about booing but if you name is Jim and you were repeatedly called Rupert wouldn't you be miffed?
 
Like Ive repeatedly said in posts on here if you check, I think those who booed windass on New Years day are scumbags. I was just using the term **** in the same fondness way that you with me.

Eyup ****

So you think Windass is a worthless, disloyal, passionless, souless **** of the highest order.

You ****
 
This is an interesting independant view.
http://www.lawinsport.com/blog/littleton-chambers/item/the-vanishing-tiger-what-s-in-a-name
THE DEBATE

Perhaps inevitably the debate over the change of name is emotive. The football club was founded in 1904 and picked up the nickname of the Tigers from around 1905. Fans have strongly opposed the change in name using an emotionally charged video4 to argue the case for retaining the name as Hull City, the campaign operates under the banner ‘City till we die’5.

On the other side of the debate Assem Allam and his family claim to have contributed over £74million to the club6 and they have overseen the rescue from administration to top flight football. They say that they need the club to be self-sustaining and to do that they need to expand to appeal to an international audience, to differentiate themselves, and to have a brand that gives them an edge over their competitors. Commercially the club belongs to them and they have the right to do as they please with their asset.

It is not known publicly at this stage which factors have been considered by the Membership Committee, and which factors will prove influential for the Council. Might I suggest one point that ought to be included in the mix if it isn't already. The Premier League Financial Regulations put the onus on clubs to be self-sustaining, not loss making. They encourage the sort of ‘business minded’ rather than ‘donation minded’ approach, which is being proposed here. In business the decision over a rebranding exercise can be equally divisive but those who will stand or fall on the financial and commercial success of the venture take the final decision.

I would be the first to say that football is much more than just business, it is because of that that I want to see clubs prosper financially and avoid the depressingly common spectre of administration. Hull City fans are rightly proud to be ‘City till they die’ but in the international community saying that you support ‘City’ may to lead to an initial assumption that you support Manchester City – surely that risk alone merits consideration of the name change!

If the business case for changing the name is sound and football clubs must work towards balanced books under the Premier League Financial Regulation is there an argument that the proposed refusal is irrational? Injections of equity from the owner is one element considered by the rules in calculating the level of permissible loss. Owners will be discouraged from injecting equity if key commercial decisions are taken out of their hands. I haven't had the pleasure of seeing the arguments in full or knowing details of The FA Membership Committee recommendation so I look forward to seeing the details when released.
Interestingly a brief look at the history books suggests that when a club moves base it is easier to change the name. Wimbledon FC became the Milton Keynes Dons when they moved in 2002. Arsenal emerged from Woolwich Arsenal when they crossed the Thames. Perhaps if Assem Allam were to relocate the club he would find it easier to rename it. Probably not the result the fans are after…

'If the business case for changing the name is sound' - it isn't, which negates everything else she's said.

She probably only wrote that nonsense to get out of doing the ironing.
 
'If the business case for changing the name is sound' - it isn't, which negates everything else she's said.

She probably only wrote that nonsense to get out of doing the ironing.


Love it.........Peddler of tacky retro clothing claims qualified lawyer specializing in Commercial Law would be better off ironing than passing comment on the legal details involved in a Football Club changing it's name.

Where's that **** of the Month Thread?
 
Love it.........Peddler of tacky retro clothing claims qualified lawyer specializing in Commercial Law would be better off ironing than passing comment on the legal details involved in a Football Club changing it's name.

Where's that **** of the Month Thread?

I'll challenge tacky, I've got some of his gear that's about 10 years old and still looks and fits like new.

And what does her being a lawyer have to do with it? Her specialty is laws, not the marketing of premier league football clubs.
 
Love it.........Peddler of tacky retro clothing claims qualified lawyer specializing in Commercial Law would be better off ironing than passing comment on the legal details involved in a Football Club changing it's name.

Where's that **** of the Month Thread?

I don't peddle retro clothing Strov, I'm afraid you're a little behind the times.

As you're obviously happy for personal info to be posted, what do you do for a living?

I'm interested in your qualifications with regard to marketing brands?
 
An average of less than one comment a week on CTWD, because they are not that relevant or important in the grand scheme of things old lad. Sorry to disappoint.

I seem to remember Dawson having an outstanding game against United and thought he was well worthy of the MotM vote.

Sharing links is usually done to instigate debate and people can comment or not comment as they wish. If some people only wish to contribute on an occasional basis I'm not the sort of person to use that as a stick to beat them with. I have something brown and sticky for that job. It's a stick.

My activity and scope on this board is rather limited as you correctly pointed out, but to be honest with you OLM most of the stuff posted on here lately bores me to death. I fully understand that people are passionate about the football club we all love but reading this forum does not fan the flames of that passion, quite the opposite in fact.

I think it was a shame that the arbitration was put back because we could all do with closure on this. Whilst you have already declared victory in heroically saving the clubs name, I'm going to wait a while for the official verdict from the FA. I will not be attending as many games as I used to in the meantime and I doubt I will be posting much either. As always, time will tell. I know it's getting harder and harder to do all the time, but Keep The Faith people.
 
How is it not relevant you idiot. The point is, there is no money in the Championship. That was the case then and is the case now. How can that not be relevant to how quickly he can recoup his investment?

The issue I have with you is that you only tell half the story and you word it to make Assem Allam seem like some kind of chancer who is ripping the club off. You were the one who said he only paid a few quid for the club, without any mention of the debt. Since then you have claimed that he will quickly get all his money back and may even double or more that gain. You don't mention anything of the risk he took then or now. You even claim he will get his money back even if we get relegated. You quote a load of figures and stats with no substantiation at all.

TELL THE WHOLE TRUTH, NOT JUST THE BITS THAT SUPPORT YOUR POINT OF VIEW........IT'S LYING.

I said he could get his money back if we are relegated if he wanted it back. He makes a profit from the sale of our squad, the parachute payments, reducing the players wages and accepting like every other championship club that he needs to break even because of the fair play rules.

I'm surprised you think that waiting more than 10 years for a man in his seventies is quickly.

If we stay in the premier league for 10 years then he stands a much better chance of getting his money back in 10 years. He depends on whether he or his family want it back.

Only you think I've worded it like he's some sort of chancer. He's a hard headed businessman that invested in the squad to get us promoted and then used the Premier league money to try and keep us there. He's the one that repaid some of his loans when he got there.

The figures come from the published club accounts.
 
An average of less than one comment a week on CTWD, because they are not that relevant or important in the grand scheme of things old lad. Sorry to disappoint.

I seem to remember Dawson having an outstanding game against United and thought he was well worthy of the MotM vote.

Sharing links is usually done to instigate debate and people can comment or not comment as they wish. If some people only wish to contribute on an occasional basis I'm not the sort of person to use that as a stick to beat them with. I have something brown and sticky for that job. It's a stick.

My activity and scope on this board is rather limited as you correctly pointed out, but to be honest with you OLM most of the stuff posted on here lately bores me to death. I fully understand that people are passionate about the football club we all love but reading this forum does not fan the flames of that passion, quite the opposite in fact.

I think it was a shame that the arbitration was put back because we could all do with closure on this. Whilst you have already declared victory in heroically saving the clubs name, I'm going to wait a while for the official verdict from the FA. I will not be attending as many games as I used to in the meantime and I doubt I will be posting much either. As always, time will tell. I know it's getting harder and harder to do all the time, but Keep The Faith people.

Well, at least my insomnia last night garnered two posts from you that were worth reading and I better understand your position, so ta for that. <ok>
 
I can see why not posting is a good thing, when fellow fans are looking at anyway to point score against the other.I have i myself got involved in these sorts of debates and now just see it as pointless and nothing to be gained from trying to degrade one another to look good on a supposedly informative forum.

Only the other day. Not a regular poster seen a Davies transfer gossip (BANG) shot down for misspelling. really! WTF.
Then again post placed in the wrong thread (BANG) again WTF.

Then your caught in a debate and all you wanted to do was be informative.

Anyway all the best to informative posters and hope we as a club have a better season and put this daft name to bed.
 
I can see why not posting is a good thing, when fellow fans are looking at anyway to point score against the other.I have i myself got involved in these sorts of debates and now just see it as pointless and nothing to be gained from trying to degrade one another to look good on a supposedly informative forum.

Only the other day. Not a regular poster seen a Davies transfer gossip (BANG) shot down for misspelling. really! WTF.
Then again post placed in the wrong thread (BANG) again WTF.

Then your caught in a debate and all you wanted to do was be informative.

Anyway all the best to informative posters and hope we as a club have a better season and put this daft name to bed.

Any way - two seperate words used in such a context.

Each other would probably be a better choice of words, and then a space after full stops.

Capital I.

Paragraph 2 is a cluster ****.

You're.

I hope this post was informative enough go to suit your tastes. ;)
 
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I am not a regular poster on here, although I often read the threads. I just don't seem to have the time to join in the debates wholeheartedly and regularly. But every now and then I feel the urge to have my say.
Now here's the thing.
I have never been anti Allam, although I find this name change topic highly emotive. I realise that people are firmly entrenched in their beliefs over this subject, I d not expect to sway anyone one way or the other with my opinion, as that's all it is, my opinion, the way I see things. No more, no less.
When the club was in financial straits, akin to a drowning man. Mr Allam donned his speedos, dived in, and saved it. (Hooray for Mr Allam). He saved the club financially. Mr Allam is without doubt an excellent businessman. Do excellent businessmen just dive in? I'd say not. He'd seen a chance, an opportunity, as good businessmen do. It was a risk, but he'd seen something, something no one else had.
He took the club, and by all accounts, he is turning it round,turning it into a profitable entity.
Excellent for all Hull City supporters. Thank you Mr Allam.
Lots of businessmen have tried and failed to do this over the years.
To Mr Allam I doff my cap,well done, three cheers.
Here's what I don care for too much in the man. His rhetoric, spin and nonsense, he talks of gifts, then holds you to ransom with blind threats in his Media outbursts, treats the supporters, his customers with utter contempt and takes us for fools.
Which brings me to the point, the name change! Dear, oh dear, oh dear.
On this issue, I can only see Mr Allam and his minions as a cancer in the club. Slowly killing the passion held by the supporters, turning them against one another, pi**ing people off, to the extent they're prepared to turn their back on the club they love, and just walk away !
I've already pointed out that any compos mentis City fans are grateful for the club being saved, yet people who seem to be pro name change deny the anti name change swell feel this! Well it's bo**ocks. We do.
If you where to save a man from drowning, I'm sure he'd be eternally grateful.
This however doesn't give you the right to go to his house and f*** his wife and daughter!
So in closing, I'd just like to point out that the name change is not for financial gain, there's no evidence to support it. It's a petty argument with the council, no more, no less.
A name change won't bring untold riches,fame, and fortune, it will at best only bring ridicule.
 
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I am not a regular poster on here, although I often read the threads. I just don't seem to have the time to join in the debates wholeheartedly and regularly. But every now and then I feel the urge to have my say.
Now here's the thing.
I have never been anti Allam, although I find this name change topic highly emotive. I realise that people are firmly entrenched in their beliefs over this subject, I d not expect to sway anyone one way or the other with my opinion, as that's all it is, my opinion, the way I see things. No more, no less.
When the club was in financial straits, akin to a drowning man. Mr Allam donned his speedos, dived in, and saved it. (Hooray for Mr Allam). He saved the club financially. Mr Allam is without doubt an excellent businessman. Do excellent businessmen just dive in? I'd say not. He'd seen a chance, an opportunity, as good businessmen do. It was a risk, but he'd seen something, something no one else had.
He took the club, and by all accounts, he is turning it round,turning it into a profitable entity.
Excellent for all Hull City supporters. Thank you Mr Allam.
Lots of businessmen have tried and failed to do this over the years.
To Mr Allam I doff my cap,well done, three cheers.
Here's what I don care for too much in the man. His rhetoric, spin and nonsense, he talks of gifts, then holds you to ransom with blind threats in his Media outbursts, treats the supporters, his customers with utter contempt and takes us for fools

His best business decision was to appoint Steve Bruce. Everything else has flown from that.