Official Man Utd FC V Liverpool FC match thread

[Sharpe*]

More than a few analysts praised Stevie's overall performance v Basel. Some claimed he carried us to the brink of victory on his own.

Unfortunately, this board weighs Stevie the same whether he's DM or AM. Blindly.

I've noticed this too.

In reality he was awful for most of the game.

Its just easy journalism to praise him to the hilt.

Having said that it was a brilliant freekick and a great moment which led to a late rally.

Key with Stevie is to manage him and not play him all game, every game and make him to the donkeys work - because he hasn't got it in him anyone, or at least to the standard we require.

Trouble is the rest of the squad isn't pulling its weight so we keep going back to him.

 

[UnitedinRed]

DDG
Rafa Evans Rojo Shaw
Carrick
Herrera Di Maria
Mata
Rooney RVP​

Rafael, di maria, shaw are all expected to be fit.

If we line up like that, and we should, bring your own ball as you wont be getting a touch of the match ball.

Chances are we wont line up like that though.

 

[Sharpe*]

DDG
Rafa Evans Rojo Shaw
Carrick
Herrera Di Maria
Mata
Rooney RVP​

Rafael, di maria, shaw are all expected to be fit.

If we line up like that, and we should, bring your own ball as you wont be getting a touch of the match ball.

Chances are we wont line up like that though.

Pretty good team that.

Evans I would target, but we haven't got anyone to really target him except with Sterling's pace.

The fact that Carrick is as slow as a canal boat also tells that we need some pace to attack through the centre.

 

[jaffaSlot]

DDG
Rafa Evans Rojo Shaw
Carrick
Herrera Di Maria
Mata
Rooney RVP​

Rafael, di maria, shaw are all expected to be fit.

If we line up like that, and we should, bring your own ball as you wont be getting a touch of the match ball.

Chances are we wont line up like that though.

You could put yourself in that team and you would still d!ck us.

 

[Treble]

Your last game against Southampton was a back 5 of Valencia, McNair, Smalling, Rojo and Young
Against Arsenal a few weeks back you played Valenica, McNair, Smalling, Blackett and Shaw

I would say thats more than once and thats only looking at your last 4 games...

You quoted 5-3-2 with Young and Valencia played as wingbacks with 3 CB's. That's only happened once. If Shaw was playing I wouldn't put it past him to go with 3 CBs again the donut. But after the fiasco against Saints, and having played both Young and Valencia successfully at home in a back 4, it's more likely he'll go with that.

 

[UnitedinRed]

At home he will go with a 4. Just hoping fellaini doesnt play after his horror show. Not that mata or herrera were any better than night but they have shown some genuine quality at home. West ham a prime example of what they can do.

As long as di maria plays it could get ugly for liverpool.

 

[Treble]

Play like the last 20 minutes against Basel. Even though we had 10 men, we had movement and more threat than i've seen all season. We can't defend either way, if we try to shut up shop, we'll be lost and concede anyway! Utd have a soft belly, you never know, we might edge it 4-3.

Not holding my breath

Completely agree with that. The shackles were off and we played football. Almost like last season with '**** defending' attitude. May as well do that considering we can't defend when caring about it

Or you could try reading what I quoted and realise we were talking about after Gerrard scored

Where have you stated or implied it was after Gerrard scored, or more importantly even addressed the point I'm making that it was as a result of Gerrard scoring. It was the impetus for your shackles coming off. Don't see how you expect that on Sunday when they wouldn't do it on Tuesday without the goal?

The only way I can see you attacking the way you did in those last 15 mins is if we go 2-0 up, you pull one back, it's 2-1 with 10 mins to go. Then the shackles will come off no doubt.

 

[Treble]

At home he will go with a 4. Just hoping fellaini doesnt play after his horror show. Not that mata or herrera were any better than night but they have shown some genuine quality at home. West ham a prime example of what they can do.

As long as di maria plays it could get ugly for liverpool.

This is probably going to surprise the fck out of you UIR but Fellaini playing a higher role, as long as Carrick, Herrera and Mata also start, is actually ok. Without having to worry about sitting deep and defending, the safety net of Carrick and Herrera gaining and holding possession, and him just focusing on his attacking play and harrying their defense, Fellaini will be fine. Last couple home games have shown that.

 

[UnitedinRed]

This is probably going to surprise the fck out of you UIR but Fellaini playing a higher role, as long as Carrick, Herrera and Mata also start, is actually ok. Without having to worry about sitting deep and defending, the safety net of Carrick and Herrera gaining and holding possession, and him just focusing on his attacking play and harrying their defense, Fellaini will be fine. Last couple home games have shown that.

What did i just read?

Sah you hate fellaini treble, for the love of god man!

 

[Sharpe*]

What did i just read?

Sah you hate fellaini treble, for the love of god man!

He's got history against us.

He good in the area and we're ****e from set pieces.

I could definitely see him scoring.

 

[UnitedinRed]

He's got history against us.

He good in the area and we're ****e from set pieces.

I could definitely see him scoring.

The most positive thing treble has ever said about fellaini before now is 'thank **** hes off'

Thank being the positive

 

[Sharpe*]

I don't think he's that bad.

Just not top 4 level.

 

[Treble]

The most positive thing treble has ever said about fellaini before now is 'thank **** hes off'

Thank being the positive

so true

It's nothing personal, I don't hate the guy for the sake of it. I don't even think it's his fault. He's just simply not a United player or good enough to wear the shirt. But he's done a job in the last couple of home games and I'll give anyone a chance who does that.

BUT having said all that I just remembered...will Di Maria be back??

 

[UnitedinRed]

so true

It's nothing personal, I don't hate the guy for the sake of it. I don't even think it's his fault. He's just simply not a United player or good enough to wear the shirt. But he's done a job in the last couple of home games and I'll give anyone a chance who does that.

BUT having said all that I just remembered...will Di Maria be back??

Apparently yes!

 

[Super G Ted'inho]

Where have you stated or implied it was after Gerrard scored, or more importantly even addressed the point I'm making that it was as a result of Gerrard scoring. It was the impetus for your shackles coming off. Don't see how you expect that on Sunday when they wouldn't do it on Tuesday without the goal?

The only way I can see you attacking the way you did in those last 15 mins is if we go 2-0 up, you pull one back, it's 2-1 with 10 mins to go. Then the shackles will come off no doubt.

I don't expect that on Sunday, I've already posted what I expect Brod to do. What you quoted was a conversation about what we should do. IE; we won't lol

 

[Super G Ted'inho]

What did i just read?

Sah you hate fellaini treble, for the love of god man!

He's got history against us.

He good in the area and we're ****e from set pieces.

I could definitely see him scoring.

Felliani is good at fouling our players and getting them them sent off for it. Evans as this in his locker too.

 

[Super G Ted'inho]

so true

It's nothing personal, I don't hate the guy for the sake of it. I don't even think it's his fault. He's just simply not a United player or good enough to wear the shirt. But he's done a job in the last couple of home games and I'll give anyone a chance who does that.

BUT having said all that I just remembered...will Di Maria be back??

Swap him for Mario...?

 

[Treble]

Felliani is good at fouling our players and getting them them sent off for it. Evans as this in his locker too.

Since goining United, he's even lost the knack of doing that. Now he'll simply get himself sent off

Who remembers this magical, mazy run and moment of wizardry?

[video=youtube;eenaUvzcNpM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eenaUvzcNpM[/video]

 

[Treble]

Swap him for Mario...?

That's a fcking dilemma and a half tbf. I'd rather have Balotelli than play with 10 men. Not sure I can say the same about Fellaini.

 

[Sharpe*]

When is Ballo due to come back from injury?

I'd still start him above our other options.