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Swans v Palace

Discussion in 'Swansea City' started by glamexile, Nov 28, 2014.

  1. swantastic

    swantastic Well-Known Member

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    45% happy with that ! what is it with the team they cant hold onto a lead at all, and not clinical enough , they go from the sublime to a bunch of ****s in the blink of an eye mun !!
     
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  2. Yankee_Jack

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    Look at this from a results perspective.

    We played Arsenal and City - split the points but performed at a very high level for 90 minutes. A coherent performance, we could see our style imposed on the game and we were very controlled in possession didn't give the ball away cheaply at all.

    We played Palace - we were dire, not coherent, lost shape, lost midfield, our style was not very visible except for the first 15 minutes when we were walking past them.

    What was the one key thing different between the two sets of performances? And it apparently has a marked impact on how we play in terms of style, shape and control.
     
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  3. ProjectVRD

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    I didn't see that Swansea team. I watched the one where JdG and Vasquez supported the striker and then late into the season JdG was moved out wide to accommodate a returning Michu, whilst Vasquez was benched. All the while with Shelvey playing alongside Leon.
     
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  4. ProjectVRD

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    I'd say it was Tom Carrol to be honest, he's lightweight but can make the game flow nicely.
     
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  5. aswan_dam

    aswan_dam Well-Known Member

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    Plenty of positives to take from the game:

    1) We had no-one sent off
    2) I didn't get wet walking to or from the stadium
    3) No new injuries
    4) I had a nice pie before kick-off
    5) one point is better than none

    :emoticon-0112-wonde
     
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  6. Yankee_Jack

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    I like your style Aswan
     
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  7. Yankee_Jack

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    Vasquez played in very few games even under Laudrup. What does he have to do with anything. When JDG was playing with Shelvey he was mostly in the deeper position and Shelvey was the one playing higher.
     
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  8. Yankee_Jack

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    That's the point I was hoping somebody else would make. Although, why does he always get tagged with the term lightweight - if he's pulling his weight how can he be light.
     
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  9. roofjack_22

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    Very disappointed Carroll or Britton didnt start this game .It just seems when that type of player starts for us , the rest of the midfielders get more adventurous which in turn gives Bony more to work with.
     
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  10. ProjectVRD

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    Vasquez played 22 games before effectively being dropped, many of them as a sub so JdG could then sit deeper as a CM refresh was made. You are claiming Shelvey played as the support striker, I am stating you were wrong because JdG and Vasquez were the supporting strikers under Laudrup, whilst Michu was the lead in that role (if fit) under Monk.

    Shelvey was hardly used in that position simply because both Laudrup and Monk always knew he was CM.
     
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  11. ProjectVRD

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    He is great at some things but winning the ball which is in possession of the opposition is not his forte, he needs the tenacity of Leon to lose the lightweight tag. Unfortunately that would mean he wouldn't be on loan here.
     
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  12. swanseaandproud

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    A very entertaining game from both sides. plenty of positives with one negative of poor finishing.
     
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  13. Matthew Bound Still Lurks

    Matthew Bound Still Lurks Well-Known Member

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    more like 5 examples of poor finishing
     
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  14. Bob the slob

    Bob the slob Well-Known Member

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    Shelvey.
     
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  15. Matthew Bound Still Lurks

    Matthew Bound Still Lurks Well-Known Member

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    Leaderless certainly in the midfield. Ki has composure but he's no leader ,Shelvey has neither
     
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  16. Bob the slob

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    Fab - stayed on his line a lot
    Rangel - some good play esecially going forward
    Bartley - did pretty much everything expected
    Ash - as above
    Taylor - some decent moments, but got toasted in the second half. I still can't work out his positioning.
    Ki - good first half but faded ... because
    Shelvey - was rarely of any use, behind CP players so couldn't take the pass, out of position, slow getting back after playing 'number 10' and putting extra pressure on Ki, Taylor and Ash in particular.
    Routs - willing but well marshalled
    Siggy - worked hard
    Montero - given a decent pass he made the CP defence look like parks players, but was pretty much starved of the ball.
    Bony - other than his goal little went right for him.
    Gomis - did nothing
    Barrow - fast but no better at getting past his marker
    Monk - why start Shelvey and, more strangely why keep him on. Back to nonsensical substitutions.

    Ref - gave a soft pen to CP (haven't seen replays, was it a pen?). Kept 11CP players on the pitch when one should definitely gone and another could have.

    Playing poorly coincided with the return of Shelvey, either Monk sees it and changes his allegiances or we will soon be hoping to get 17th place. After Arsenal and Citeh I really believed we had returned to the 'Swansea way'.

    Pretty obvious we sat back on the lead again and gave up another 2 easy points. CP were dreadful.
     
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  17. plastic

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    At least Lawro's prediction was correct.
     
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  18. Stereo

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    Still wasn't a penalty.
     
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  19. Shaper

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    (Added a few bits)
     
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  20. glamexile

    glamexile Well-Known Member

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    :emoticon-0159-music Some things in life are bad
    They can really make you mad
    Other things just make you swear and curse.
    When you're chewing on life's gristle
    Don't grumble, give a whistle
    And this'll help things turn out for the best...

    And...always look on the bright side of life...
    Always look on the light side of life... :emoticon-0159-music
     
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