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If it was just about being a team game, we wouldn't ever be giving Man of the Match out would we? In this case I can understand why Rooney is being singled out. Not that I give a flying fck anyway tbh.
 
So if someone had made their debut last night and scored you would prefer it didn`t get mentioned?

Clyne made his debut and no one is talking about it because our hero scored a pen and did **** all else during the game <whistle>


And I know he did more than Hendo, Sterling & Lallana who were all pants as well <ok>
 
If it was just about being a team game, we wouldn't ever be giving Man of the Match out would we? In this case I can understand why Rooney is being singled out. Not that I give a flying fck anyway tbh.

We don't.... sponsorship companies do so they can get a shout out... "and the Barclaycard MOTM is...."

Do you think players give a **** if they get motm? Unless they have a motm bonus clause in the contract, doubt most of them care.

Or do you think that trophy they get presented goes pride of place on the mantlepeice <whitle>
 
We don't.... sponsorship companies do so they can get a shout out... "and the Barclaycard MOTM is...."

Do you think players give a **** if they get motm? Unless they have a motm bonus clause in the contract, doubt most of them care.

Or do you think that trophy they get presented goes pride of place on the mantlepeice <whitle>

Yeh but it doesn't change the fact it happens. And nobody ever complains about MOTM being awarded in principle bcos it's a team sport. And we as fans also often pick players out for performance. We also bring up stats and all sorts to highlight how good/bad individual players are. Sterling will get credit for his performance despite the rest of Liverpool team being ****e for example <whistle>
 
Yeh but it doesn't change the fact it happens. And nobody ever complains about MOTM being awarded in principle bcos it's a team sport. And we as fans also often pick players out for performance. We also bring up stats and all sorts to highlight how good/bad individual players are. Sterling will get credit for his performance despite the rest of Liverpool team being ****e for example <whistle>

Exactly.
We discuss, performance and praise the people that played well.

Not just about 1 person because it was his 100th game (with probably 40 of them being friendlies and 30 being against teams ranked 70+) and scoring a penalty <ok>
 
Exactly.
We discuss, performance and praise the people that played well.

Not just about 1 person because it was his 100th game (with probably 40 of them being friendlies and 30 being against teams ranked 70+) and scoring a penalty <ok>


Oddly enough, the most i have seen written about Rooney is on this thread. Most news outlets have spoken about Clynes debut with enthusiasm stating the position is his to claim, they have also made Welbeck man of the match in the main.
 
Exactly.
We discuss, performance and praise the people that played well.

Not just about 1 person because it was his 100th game (with probably 40 of them being friendlies and 30 being against teams ranked 70+) and scoring a penalty <ok>

So name the player who has made 100 competitive appearances against top 20 sides and we can all bow to him <whistle>
 
Wellllll messi probably

The fact is the globe trotting top sides these days play a lot of premium friendlies England don't


All 100 caps for england means these days is continued mediocrity over time and you can add Gerrard to that

Beckham... Didn't deserve caps after.... 95?, 98?

Gerrard 100 caps when in it were 2002 I doubt he'd have got there, certainly didn't deserve last 6/7

The list can go on really

I mean let's not kid ourselves when England last had a decent 11 Neville was the best rb but he only got and merited 90, just about.
 
Exactly.
We discuss, performance and praise the people that played well.

Not just about 1 person because it was his 100th game (with probably 40 of them being friendlies and 30 being against teams ranked 70+) and scoring a penalty <ok>

So what you are saying is a proper match analysis would have praised a sterling (slightly) and a welbeck and even a Rooney, condemned England for being asleep until Henderson woke them up and saved a special tribute piece til the end

However it's just easier to paper over the cracks and ignore how bad England were
 
If Scotland win- I won't be surprised because Roy Hodgson is an idiot! It's a game we should always win- but I refuse to support England whilst Roy is in charge.

I'm supporting, Wales, Hungary, and Romania. (yes all of them) until Woy gets the sack- then I'll go back to supporting England.
 
Exactly.
We discuss, performance and praise the people that played well.

Not just about 1 person because it was his 100th game (with probably 40 of them being friendlies and 30 being against teams ranked 70+) and scoring a penalty <ok>

Hold on <laugh> I was just pointing out it's not just about being a team game, which you're now agreeing with lol

If you want to argue whether he deserves it Bis you can do that with someone who gives a s**t <ok>
 
Why the **** are England playing a friendly game 4.5 months before the next qualifier but just 4 days before the next round of PL games?

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