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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by NorwayRanger, Oct 19, 2014.

  1. IwasanotherwatfordR

    IwasanotherwatfordR Well-Known Member

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    Harry also said Adel was earning £60k-£70k per week which is clearly a lie. The poor lad cannot even afford a belt and is wearing badly torn jeans that ought to have been thrown in the trash years ago. It's a scandalous disgrace to see a top flight footballer so impoverished, no small wonder the boy is showing a lack of motivation.
     
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  2. QPR Oslo

    QPR Oslo Well-Known Member

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    Seems to me Harry is bringing the unrest you refer to by repeatedly lying about the player. I have been hoping he goes for months, still do. I also hope a new Manager would get some good games from Adel.
     
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  3. TheBigDipper

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    In public, the club has to back the manager in this. He shouldn't have taken the bait in the interview on Saturday, but that can't be undone now. I suspect he will get some well-deserved constructive criticism in private from his bosses, but I don't think he will change. Compare his interviews and rambling answers with the pointed, structured comments of Eddie Howe or Nigel Pearson.

    The player needs to grow up and stop being so unprofessional and selfish. The tone of his interview is one of total self-entitlement, saying he is right and the manager is wrong. He has broken ranks in a way that is destructive for the club and solely for his own benefit. His approach is not to deny or disprove the claims about his lack of fitness. It is, instead, to say it doesn't matter! He may, BTW, weigh 85kg now, but I'm sure he wasn't that weight 2 months ago.

    The player cannot be the tail that wags the dog. If the manager has criteria for selection and doesn't pick him, then that's up to the manager. It would be helpful if people who don't like the manager stopped picking up the player as a stick to beat him with. This player is a rotten stick.

    I remember a story about Alf Ramsey, which may or may not be true but illustrates a principle. A player is reported to have been complaining that he wasn't picked for England, saying "but I'm the best player in (whatever...)". The reply was "You may be the best player, but I pick people to make the best team".

    If Harry ever was a great manager, it's clear his best days are behind him, but he' she manager we have. Adel is a flawed genius, but his flaws far outweigh his genius. Those of you who complain about lack of spirit and fight in the team actually undermine the goal of team unity and fighting for each other by supporting Adel against Harry. Adel has never fought for anything in his life other than himself, despite the collateral damage to those around him.
     
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  4. SRR

    SRR Well-Known Member

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    Could be a master stroke from Arry. At least there is a reaction from AT and he may now wish to prove him wrong. By his own admission AT said her did not put everything in to the reserve game. That's hardly the sign of a player desperate for 1st team action.
     
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  5. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    maybe harry should pick him for the next game
    see whos bluff will be called
     
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  6. Kampala Hoop

    Kampala Hoop Active Member

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    This just looks silly now. To be fair, Adel says he was floating around 84 and 86kg... For his height this is pretty heavy!!! Not a great example, but Gareth Bale is two inches taller and 10kg lighter. This puts Adel around the same weight as Rob Green, who has five inches on him.

    I want a fit and willing Adel to build a team around - we all do, so something has to give here, let's hope the whole club knuckle down and work
     
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  7. Peter Damage

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    - He clearly isn’t holding it in- so therefore you realise he isn’t overweight-

    - At the moment he can handle 60 minutes at least- the more games he plays the more his minutes increase. you accept that with some players. We do that with Bobby already

    - Do you really think we needed 3 wingers on the bench? Hoillet, Phillips, and Traore. Adel offers a lot more and offers something different and can play more centrally as well.

    - How about live off what he did in 2014 in Serie A and the Champions League while keeping likes of Kaka and Robinho out the team?

    - Niko and… others? Nicely vague…Have you watched any of our other games this season? Talk before the game was that the players look deflated as soon as we go behind because they don’t believe we can get back in the game.
    Harry has been embarrassed by Adel here. He’s said what everyone knows, Harry sits in the office all day and isn’t much of a professional himself. I reckon TF needs to check his internet browsing history, could maybe sack him for gross misconduct
     
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  8. alexb

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    He's definitely not 3 stone overweight, but he's clearly out of shape compared to most other professionals. The vast majority of players are incredibly lean and have very low body fat %'s, under 8% a lot of the time, he's clearly at around 15%.

    Both him and Harry are wrong.
     
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  9. Flanman

    Flanman Well-Known Member

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    Lets not forget Fulham had FOUR managers that could not manage him or want him in the starting line, some people need to wake up Adel is a bad apple.
     
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  10. QPRSAM82

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    This is bad news. We don't need this in house fighting. I am not sure how its going to end but losing or even drawing to Villa could be the last straw.
     
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  11. DT Footspa

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    Looks like a genuine enough response to Redknapp to me

    Looks like a much more mature one also

    The player is the most exciting we have had IMO … let him play

    What Harold has done from day one IMO is try and tannish Taarabt any chance he can … Yes Taarabt has off field problems but so what he is a brilliant footballer

    Harold looks to be a simply dreadful manager IMO
     
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  12. qprbeth

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    Roller and 999s I am sure I can see a nipple....please get rid of this disgusting thread
     
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  13. DT Footspa

    DT Footspa Well-Known Member

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    His weight is what it is and that is a brilliant aspect IMO … He is able to ride tackles and is very strong … its in his make up as a great player.

    What makes him unique is his speed of thought, his obvious skill and his core strength.

    I will defend him until the cows come home.

    This is about Harold's ego .. any QPR fan that sucked in my that was wrong IMO
     
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  14. DT Footspa

    DT Footspa Well-Known Member

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    On the money 23 totally agree
     
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  15. DT Footspa

    DT Footspa Well-Known Member

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    Build the team around Taarabt IMO and QPR will be QPR again

    He is such a brilliant player its the only way.

    Look where QPR are now? what are they? We even had posts wanting Tony Pulis as a manager

    Bad apple he is a footballing genius IMO
     
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  16. TootingExcess

    TootingExcess Well-Known Member

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    Neither of them want to be here (Harry's heart is still at Spurs, and Adel wants to be at AC Milan) and I dont think either of them care for QPR.
     
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  17. Turkish" Premier" Hoops

    Turkish" Premier" Hoops Well-Known Member

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    Photo shop ?...................... Pictures from 3 seasons ago ?
    Who knows but he certainly looked a bit heftier when he came on against Wet Spam, He claims he kept Kaka & Robhinho out at AC Milan but they played a squad rotation system so at some stage he would have played instead of them , I'm not defending'Arry but after saturday you could see he was thoroughly pee'd off and the journo asked a leading question and 'Arry bit.
    I cannot defend Adel either as he is just as bad for talking to a journo slagging 'Arry off.
    I am a firm believer that you dont wash your dirty laundry in public and this needs nipping in the bud now before it causes anymore damage to our club, we are already a laughing stock amongst other clubs and fans and we are very fast becoming as hated as we possibly can with our big money, little club reputation, Now me personally i dont care what other fans think about MY CLUB, I am a QPR fan and i will be until my dying day, But I care about my club and it is my opinion that one or the other of them has to go it is just a matter of who of the two goes and as much as i loved what Adel achieved for us when we won the championship no man can be allowed to be bigger than QPR and Mr Taaraabt seems to draw attention to himself wherever he has played with his attitude and his belief that he is " The Star " of whatever side he has been at which has soon been dispelled by said clubs managers eventually dropping him and getting rid, now surely all these managers can't be wrong, Adel has a bad attitude, is poison in a dressing room and refuses to train or take care of his fitness during the close season ( we all saw the videos of his first pre-season session ) and so it is with regret i feel it is the prima donna who must make way for the good of the team and our ambition of becoming Premier League stayers, Whether or not 'Arry's training sessions are not up to scratch or he sits in his office twiddling his thumbs, at the end of the day until Tony decides 'Arry must go HE IS THE MANAGER, and one bad apple must NOT be allowed to upset the applecart as he has done wherever he has gone.
    Once again even after our performance at the weekend, when we played the best i have seen in a long time we, the press, the manager and all and sundry have been drawn into a discussion causing arguments about a player who was'nt even in the matchday squad and had no influence over the result one way or the other to detract from what was an outstanding albeit an unlucky performance from a group of players who actually looked like they wanted to perform for QPR, thus turning a positive into a negative and a club into a circus yet again.
    I for one am sick and tired of Adel threads for or against him and it is just my opinion that no matter how good he is on his day we can no longer as QPR fans tolerate one person causing mayhem whether he started the ball rolling or not every pre-match and post-match interview.
    So from me after years of Adel this, or Adel that it's time to let him go and just get on with little old QPR and not the baggage that he brings.
    Thanks for the memories ADEL, be they good or bad but.........................
    ADIOS.
     
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  18. NorwayRanger

    NorwayRanger Well-Known Member

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    He said himself he was 85 kg (188 lbs). That is overweight for a person who's 1,80 m (5 ft 11 in), about one stone overweight to be correct.

    Take another player who's exactly the same height as Adel, Mesut Ozil who weighs 76 kg (168 lbs). 76-78 kg is the ideal weight for a person who is 1,80 m (5 ft 11 in).


    Anyway it is not what this is about. It's again our dirty laundry done in the public, it is ridicoulus and will only harm us. Both Harry and Adel have behaved like idiots in their own special ways.
     
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  19. Telford Ranger

    Telford Ranger Well-Known Member

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    Certainly not 3-stone overweight, but definitely not in top condition. Fat roll just above the hip, which all the sucking-in can't hide, and a double chin.

    HR needs to STFU and keep this stuff inhouse. Atrociously bad management and that's coming from someone who's wanted Adel gone for three years. If you don't have the presence or character to sway someone in person keep quiet and deal behind the scenes would be my advice. You ain't got this all you look is whiney and incompetent when you go public.

    Taarabt should shape up and ship out.
     
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  20. Eamon Holmes

    Eamon Holmes Well-Known Member

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    Good man Harry! Calculated risk? Last throw of the dice?. After not responding to mangers in the UK over the last 3 years or so, FINALLY Harry has stirred up some fire in Adel's belly.

    Let him show what he can do. Let him show his team mates that he can put a shift in during training. Let him fight for a place instead of just turning up and expecting to be in the team.

    THIS IS HIS CHANCE.

    He has to prove to the coaches and rest of the squad that he is prepared to become a part of the team again and not just swan around like a Prima Donna blessing everybody else with his presence when he wants to.
     
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