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What will Liverpool win in the 2014-15 season...?

  • Premier League

  • Champions League

  • FA Cup

  • League Cup

  • As much as Everton and Spurs!

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Gerrez said:
I was taking the piss Tobes. If I were serious I'd have deleted all comments, closed the thread and banned you both by now :p
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Thinly veiled threats.......I like it :)

If I can take him down with me, I might sacrifice myself for the greater good <laugh>
 
astroturfnaut said:
Except for some elementary particles and some specific atomic/molecular states, no two things in the universe are ever the same.

So we either make no comparisons at all or we just make the best ones we can.

So there are two basic methods we can use. Either you think it's just as easy to play Man City away as Burnley at home first game of the season because timing is the most important factor. Or secondly you can compare two managers in their results in the same fixtures.

IMO comparing fixtures is the best we can do (and every single match preview ever reports the previous season's result rather than the result from the same game week so I am not alone) and the fact is that Moyes got far more points for Man Utd than the #tacticalgenius
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What is this gibberish? Do you even know what it says?
 
Statistically john oshea and wes brown are better players than gerrard. Using the stats that ultimately matter.
 
UnitedinRed said:
What is this gibberish? Do you even know what it says?
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Its fairly simple TBF. Look at the seven games you've played and compare them to the equivalent games from last season.

For example:
2013-14: Man Utd 2-0 Swansea (3pts) (Moyes)
2014-15: Man Utd 1-2 Swansea (0pts) (Van Gaal)

Therefore, when comparing results Moyes was three points better off than LVG in the same fixtures.

I don't agree, just explaining for you simpletons <ok>
 
Gerrez said:
Its fairly simple TBF. Look at the seven games you've played and compare them to the equivalent games from last season.

For example:
2013-14: Man Utd 2.- Swansea (3pts)
2014-15: Man Utd 1-2 Swansea (0pts)

Therefore, when comparing results Moyes was three points better off.

I don't agree, just explaining for you simpletons <ok>
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So... Burnley, Leicester and qpr were in the premier league last season? Or do we trade them for newly promoted teams because as we all know, all promoted teams are the same?

Or do we dismiss it as tye complete garbage it is?
 
UnitedinRed said:
So... Burnley, Leicester and qpr were in the premier league last season? Or do we trade them for newly promoted teams because as we all know, all promoted teams are the same?

Or do we dismiss it as tye complete garbage it is?
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1, 2 & 3 swap places with 18, 19 & 20 respectively <ok>
 
It's a bollocks theory that stands up to little scrutiny.

Of course you can look at a fixture and compare it to last seasons outcome, but there's an infinite amount of variables that can affect a result, so it's nothing more than an indicator and shouldn't be held up as some form of 'proof' of anything, especially when it's nothing more than a weary bitter agenda.
 
Gerrez said:
Its fairly simple TBF. Look at the seven games you've played and compare them to the equivalent games from last season.

For example:
2013-14: Man Utd 2-0 Swansea (3pts) (Moyes)
2014-15: Man Utd 1-2 Swansea (0pts) (Van Gaal)

Therefore, when comparing results Moyes was three points better off than LVG in the same fixtures.

I don't agree, just explaining for you simpletons <ok>
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theirs no point explaining anything to these guys who are only out to argue. it doesn't matter if someone said the sky was blue they'd be on about red skys at night ... it'd not matter if you said their brain needed oxygen to live they'd be off saying helium is fine... which is think is why they are in this state.

Just cos astros thing is a bit pointless doesn't mean they would even attempt a thoughtful comeback its all just prattling and pissing up against a wall..
 
moreinjuredthanowen said:
theirs no point explaining anything to these guys who are only out to argue. it doesn't matter if someone said the sky was blue they'd be on about red skys at night ... it'd not matter if you said their brain needed oxygen to live they'd be off saying helium is fine... which is think is why they are in this state.

Just cos astros thing is a bit pointless doesn't mean they would even attempt a thoughtful comeback its all just prattling and pissing up against a wall..
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That's such a kop out answer that, pisses me off that it's rolled out whenever there's a theory ripped to shreds by non - reds.

Maybe it's just been destroyed as it's complete bollocks MITO and the fact that it's author is a bell end, is irrelevant to the obvious conclusion. As it stands it's been dismantled with reasoned argument, you're just choosing to 'piss up a wall' yourself lad.
 
Gerrez said:
Its fairly simple TBF. Look at the seven games you've played and compare them to the equivalent games from last season.

For example:
2013-14: Man Utd 2-0 Swansea (3pts) (Moyes)
2014-15: Man Utd 1-2 Swansea (0pts) (Van Gaal)

Therefore, when comparing results Moyes was three points better off than LVG in the same fixtures.

I don't agree, just explaining for you simpletons <ok>
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Yes, but even if you accept this ridiculous premise, We beat Everton who we lost to at home last season, and drew with Sunderland who we beat last season.

So even by astro's "method", we are only two points worse off than under Moyes, not 7-10.

#******can'tcount <ok>
 
I do agree that you simply cannot compare this season's results to last seasons - the only way it would be a meaningful comparison is if both teams remain static in every aspect (which is pretty much impossible in football).
 
Swarbs said:
Yes, but even if you accept this ridiculous premise, We beat Everton who we lost to at home last season, and drew with Sunderland who we beat last season.

So even by astro's "method", we are only two points worse off than under Moyes, not 7-10.

#******can'tcount <ok>
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I never argued otherwise. In fact I did say I didn't agree with the comparison. I was merely pointing out it was easy to understand despite UIR's attempt to make out it was "gibberish" <ok>

Personally, I don't like to compare players, teams, managers, results, etc since each are their own. The only two statistic tables I show a interest in other than the league table are the blocks of four/five and the line graph Astro provides showing how the existing season is progressing. I just ignore the previous season lines etc. If others like them then so be it, each to their own. I just don't see why Tobes, UIR, etc have to make a big deal about it other than because of who posted it.
 
Gerrez said:
I never argued otherwise. In fact I did say I didn't agree with the comparison. I was merely pointing out it was easy to understand despite UIR's attempt to make out it was "gibberish" <ok>
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I think the problem most people had was astro's claim that it somehow showed Moyes got 'far more points'. Two more points is not far more points, however you look at it.

Even the most conceptually simple theory becomes complicated to understand if the person trying to explain it is justifying it with data and arguments that are utterly wrong.
 
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