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RIP Jules Bianchi

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by SgtBhaji, Oct 5, 2014.

  1. Smithers

    Smithers Well-Known Member
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    @pitlanetalk: Unfortunately we have very bad news.- RMC Sport saying Bianchi's condition has worsened, he's now been hooked on life support. #F1 #Formula1

    @pitlanetalk: RMC Sport also says Bianchi could be in for another surgery after cranial bleeding. #ForzaJules #F1 #Formula1
     
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  2. ErnieBecclestone

    ErnieBecclestone Well-Known Member

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    We have no idea as to what the situation is, let's just hope he makes it through intact and compos mentis.
     
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  3. Mrcento

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    Fingers crossed we get more positive news from official source.

    I stayed up all night to watch the race and stayed up later to hopefully get positive news, tbh i was expecting the worst when i woke up.

    Obviously head injuries are unpredictable so whilst any positive news is welcome, it doesn't mean much at this stage. It will be days before we know... in a strange way, no news might well be better news (if that makes sense).

    #ForzaJules
     
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  4. BrightLampShade

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    Just got round to finish watching the race. Looks bad for Bianchi but hopefully he'll be ok. As with Schumacher's case I'm not going to believe anything other than official statements, anything else is just gossip, or worse, acquired through foul play.

    Good luck Jules <ok>


    Some good drives today, very good. Somewhat overshadowed though (quite rightly). Hopefully only positives will come out of this situation.
     
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  5. DHCanary

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    This is interesting, telemetry taken from a mobile app at the time of Bianchi's accident. Would imply he was travelling at potentially 200kmph before he started aquaplaning.
     
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  6. SgtBhaji

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    Anybody got any reliable updates?
     
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  7. Mrcento

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    Sky sports news Craig Slater updated at 6:25 am that Bianchi has not undergone a second operation as rumours suggested but also, sadly is not breathing unaided and is reliant on a ventilator :(.
     
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  8. SaintsForTheWin

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    A bad head injury with the information above, I wouldn't be shocked if Jules' has been put into a drug induced coma to help the swelling go down.
     
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  9. Number 1 Jasper

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    I agree . I would not read to much into the fact he cannot breathe unaided for this precise reason .
     
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  10. allsaintchris.

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    Marussia F1 Team

    With sincere appreciation for the huge outpouring of support for Jules, we'd like to share with you our latest external communication. Please link to our website, where you will find this and other communications from the Team > http://mf1te.am/30ZIdt

    MEDIA ADVISORY &#9474; 6 October 2014

    Jules Bianchi Accident, 2014 Formula 1 Japanese Grand Prix
    Yokkaichi, Japan

    6 October 2014, 16.00hrs local/08.00hrs BST

    Following the accident involving Jules Bianchi during yesterday’s 2014 Formula One Japanese Grand Prix at Suzuka Circuit, the Marussia F1 Team would like to acknowledge the huge outpouring of support and affection for Jules and the Team at this very difficult time.
    With regard to the communication of information concerning Jules’ medical condition, we will respect, and be guided by, the wishes of the Bianchi family. Together with Jules’ care, they will remain our highest priority. Therefore, we would ask for patience and understanding with regard to further medical updates, which will be communicated in conjunction with the Mie General Medical Center in Yokkaichi, where Jules is being treated, when they feel it is appropriate.
    Representatives of the Marussia F1 Team and Scuderia Ferrari will remain at the hospital to support Jules and the Bianchi family
     
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  11. TomTom94

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    Unfortunately not, the best the BBC can find is that there are "conflicting reports".
     
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  12. allsaintchris.

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    I watched the race live on Sky, then caught the end part of the rerun on the beeb later. Sky seemed to be about 10 minutes ahead of the BBC with the news on Bianchi, despite the camera's clearly spending a lot of time showing shots of the Marussia pit crew. Maybe Kravitz has better contacts in the pitlane than their chap does so got information quicker? Even so, am surprised the beeb doesn't have someone watching their rivals coverage to check up on any info during a race, otherwise it makes them look a bit daft if Sky are reporting on something in a race that the beeb know nothing about.
     
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  13. El_Bando

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    agree with slick and saint, I thought the problem was with sutil till after the race ended. Sutil's crash was quite soft so I couldnt understand how he hurt himself.
     
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  14. cosicave

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    UGH. Sickened.
    This is the first forum I've expressed any thoughts about the Bianchi crash. There were plenty of things from the race
    * I'd have preferred to speak of here and I agree with the idea of a dedicated thread, so I'd be happy to find this comment moved, along with any others which make no reference to the race itself.

    When cars are on Inters, DRS activation becomes a possibility, since it is at the discretion of the Race Director.

    It seems you were the first to express the possibility of the true nature of this ghastly incident. For fear of exactly what transpired, I was very, very surprised the Safety Car was not deployed immediately Sutil slid off, since his car was itself in a very dangerous position, never mind before allowing a JCB to attempt a recovery in very poor driving conditions in the acceleration zone of a fast part of the circuit where drivers are already 'on the gas' before being able to even see the crash-site…

    Rant not over. Delaying the SC was a monstrous oversight; it should have been out immediately. Of course, I accept the possibility that there was inadequate communication between those at the scene and Race Control – but this incident should never have occurred. Really, I cannot think of a more justified 'deploy the SC right now' situation…


    There was a need to clear the scene if the race was to continue and mobile cranes are necessarily big and heavy. But the size and nature of the recovery vehicle is not a problem if the situation is correctly contained.

    I believe Bianchi was approaching the scene of Sutil's crash at roughly the speed of most. Relative to them, Bianchi's speed was certainly not excessive. However, it is perhaps worth noting that his team-mate, Chilton, drove past the scene pretty much at racing speed, fortunately without incident.

    *For the time being, I'll leave thoughts about the race until later.
     
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  15. TomTom94

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    I have a plan for a dedicated thread but I'm waiting for when we get an update on his condition.

    This is the main takeaway - if there's a car stranded and it can't be moved without endangering personnel or requiring another vehicle then the safety car has to come out immediately.
     
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  16. dhel

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    Another thing, just before Jules Bianchi crashed. I think I heard a commentator saying that the JCB seemed to have gotten stuck while trying to remove Sutil's car and that's why it was taking that long. Yes, I think the safety car should have been deployed a bit earlier, but I believe they didnt deploy it earlier because they must have thought the JCB would have had Sutil's car out of there much more quickly. If you noticed it took way too long to remove Sutil's car and I believe it must have been something to do with a problem with the JCB. It was very unfortunate what happened but I honestly think had the JCB removed Sutil's car more quickly the race might have ended without incident.
     
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  17. El_Bando

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    When a Bianchi thread is created, im sure me and the other mods will happily move across some posts from here <ok>

    Also thanks cosi for digging up some old posts during the race. I forgot about my DRS post but after posting that I did try and find the rule and you are correct. The race director does have control during intermediate periods of a wet race. came just about the right time for Hamilton though. I dont know if a call was made by drivers to enable it?


    On the issue of safety car and recovery. Hopefully next year in this situation The race will be stopped and the recovery vehicles and marshals can clean up cleanly and efficiently without risk of themselves and other drivers. Also we as the fans wont be bored with parade laps and will get more 'racing' laps. <ok>
     
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  18. SaintsForTheWin

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    Hindsight is such a wonderful thing though. I would like to know over the years how many times a crane has come on to the circuit without incident? I feel drivers are being complacent on double yellow flags - The formal description from the official F1 website

    "Yellow flag
    Indicates danger, such as a stranded car, ahead. A single waved yellow flag warns drivers to slow down, while two waved yellow flags at the same post means that drivers must slow down and be prepared to stop if necessary. Overtaking is prohibited."


    It's not just Bianchi, every driver pushes the limit. If you go kartin the yellow light means walking pace but once your mate starts catching you up, you go a bit faster until you're losing little time altogether. I know the comparison isn't the same but it is similar and it's human nature to push to the limits, especially racing drivers. I hope no ones changes the rules to having a safety car on nearly every car removal crash but I can see the race stewards clamping down on drivers travelling quickly through double flagged sections.
     
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  19. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I?
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    Can anybody confirm it was double yellows. Another point I made was It appeared to only be a single yellow. The graphic was Solid yellow on the TV rather than flashing. I may be wrong.
     
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  20. SaintsForTheWin

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    I was going by the FIA statement from yesterday.

    Very little video of the action at that point due to the crash.
     
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