Scotch Independence - the countdown
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If MD votes YES then I will be happy to go along with the whole shabang he seems to know what's going on .
Bring it on ****s, remember you won't have any armed forces.
Unlike Venezualans, the English wouldn't have the balls to flatly refuse a UN decision.
Shetland wants **** all to do with Scotland.
England has vast reserves of oil and gas onshore. Fracking is the future.
The Central Belt of Scotland offers nothing at all.
England has vast reserves of oil and gas onshore. Fracking is the future.
The Central Belt of Scotland offers nothing at all.
We'll have more influence in the UN than a noob nation. You probably won't even have a seat there for a few years yet.
Of course. Those are the maritime borders the SNP think Scotland should get. No doubt Westminster will want them pushed up a bit so we can get a bit of the oil.
Not legal, decriminalised.
Still illegal to deal them but being caught in possession of small amounts isn't a criminal offence.
You already "Pushed them up a bit"
That's the problem I'm talking about, not future disputes.
Some thoughts...
Do we want to determine our own governance? Yes
Do we want to sit at the NATO table? Who cares. It doesn't matter. Let the 'powerhouses' continue their own who can pish higher competition. Nae **** is gonny lob nukes ever. Ever.
Do we want to sit at the Euro table? Mibby. As long as it's good for us. The UK will vote in 2016 on the same question. We may be in, we may be out.
Do we want a currency union? Who cares. A currency union makes sense for an independent Scotland (in the short term) and for the UK (in continuity) in terms of trade between us. After that it disny matter a ****. It will be renegotiated as best suits trade and business.
Do we want our share of UK assets? Yes and no. If we take a share of assets we take a share of the liabilities on those assets. If we are denied a share of assets we therefore eschew liabilities.
Assets, believe it or not, include the non-existent pension fund. The fund that consecutive Westminster Governments spent before they had it. There is no pension fund. Peter spent it before borrowing from Paul, and Paul never had a penny. Paul, meanwhile was borrowing from ****, and **** is a failed banker. Money disappearing act.
Do we want nuclear disarmament? Who cares. The real question is keep Faslane or not. (Note this has nothing to do with NATO membership)
Do we have armed forces after independence? How do we divvy that up? Take the Scots fellas from UK forces? How do we pay for our own forces and security?
Are our own resources enough? Well, obviously. We've been propping up decades of decadent overspending by Westminster while being told the oil would run out 25 years ago. Further, we have highly valuable exported resources in terms of our produce (eg. grain/rape, lamb/wool, beef, whisky, seafood), as well as power production via nuclear and hydro-electrical and new generation like wind and wave farms.
Are we smart enough? Yes. Undeniably yes. We have the oldest and best academic and scientific institutions in the world, bar none. We have fallen a long way behind in IT technology, though. Companies and organisations worldwide come to Scottish Universities to research such simple things as DNA, cloning, cancer, to name but a few.
Are we Scotland? Yes.
Am voting YES
If we make a **** of it, it's our own **** of it, and we can elect people to un-**** it. As opposed to taking what Westminster tells us what **** of it we have.
YES!
Do we want to determine our own governance? Yes
Do we want to sit at the NATO table? Who cares. It doesn't matter. Let the 'powerhouses' continue their own who can pish higher competition. Nae **** is gonny lob nukes ever. Ever.
Do we want to sit at the Euro table? Mibby. As long as it's good for us. The UK will vote in 2016 on the same question. We may be in, we may be out.
Do we want a currency union? Who cares. A currency union makes sense for an independent Scotland (in the short term) and for the UK (in continuity) in terms of trade between us. After that it disny matter a ****. It will be renegotiated as best suits trade and business.
Do we want our share of UK assets? Yes and no. If we take a share of assets we take a share of the liabilities on those assets. If we are denied a share of assets we therefore eschew liabilities.
Assets, believe it or not, include the non-existent pension fund. The fund that consecutive Westminster Governments spent before they had it. There is no pension fund. Peter spent it before borrowing from Paul, and Paul never had a penny. Paul, meanwhile was borrowing from ****, and **** is a failed banker. Money disappearing act.
Do we want nuclear disarmament? Who cares. The real question is keep Faslane or not. (Note this has nothing to do with NATO membership)
Do we have armed forces after independence? How do we divvy that up? Take the Scots fellas from UK forces? How do we pay for our own forces and security?
Are our own resources enough? Well, obviously. We've been propping up decades of decadent overspending by Westminster while being told the oil would run out 25 years ago. Further, we have highly valuable exported resources in terms of our produce (eg. grain/rape, lamb/wool, beef, whisky, seafood), as well as power production via nuclear and hydro-electrical and new generation like wind and wave farms.
Are we smart enough? Yes. Undeniably yes. We have the oldest and best academic and scientific institutions in the world, bar none. We have fallen a long way behind in IT technology, though. Companies and organisations worldwide come to Scottish Universities to research such simple things as DNA, cloning, cancer, to name but a few.
Are we Scotland? Yes.
Am voting YES
If we make a **** of it, it's our own **** of it, and we can elect people to un-**** it. As opposed to taking what Westminster tells us what **** of it we have.
YES!
We'll have more influence in the UN than a noob nation. You probably won't even have a seat there for a few years yet.
You're probably right I reckon that influence will be limited if Scotland was to leave though. Not for us leaving but for us being allowed to so easily.
Lot's of countries would take it as a sign of weakness I reckon.