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Scotch Independence - the countdown

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by stopmeandslapme, Feb 5, 2014.

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Should Scotland be an Independent Country?

  1. Yes

  2. No

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  1. Toby

    Toby GC's Life Coach

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    It sounds like you see them as the answer to all Scotland's problems, as the other major parties have failed.

    As much as I'd love the Greens to be elected one day, I seriously doubt it'll ever happen.
     
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  2. The Raging Oxter

    The Raging Oxter Well-Known Member

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    There have been two Scottish Prime Ministers in the past 50 years - and Blair was more English than John Bull.


    I've never said the SNP was the answer to Scotland's problems. I'm suggesting we, the Scottish people, are better placed to run Scotland than Westminster.

    I should also add that in the event of a Yes vote, Scottish Labour have the perfect opportunity to re-invent themselves as a slightly to the left-of-centre socialist party, which is something they abandoned, with disastrous consequences, a long time ago.
     
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  3. The Anilingus Aficionado

    The Anilingus Aficionado Official POTY 2011, 2014, 2015, 2018 & 2023

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    You didn't read because you're ****ed. Checkmate my sausage-concealing friend.

    Get back to chasing mushrooms through the Lothian woodlands and I'll get back to re-educating the spastics on here.
     
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  4. RAVENBLACK

    RAVENBLACK Well-Known Member

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    The Central Belt will bleed the prosperous parts of Scotland dry.

    Malingering spongers just like Westminster.

    It's a No from this sheepshagger.

    Why would anyone want to support a bunch of vile, obnoxious, aggressive and violent Scotchies?? The non Scotchies must be thinking we are in Beirut or something.

    Yes voters = ****s.

    There, I've said what everyone else is thinking.
     
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  5. Bib Fortuna's Maw

    Bib Fortuna's Maw Well-Known Member

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    Pension crisis has three possible cures.

    1) Worker-retiree ratio - raising the state retirement age is the main way to increase this.
    2) Reduce non-contributer obligations (kind of what's happening just now)
    3) Increase pot funds (raise taxes in the case of the state pensions - you can bring down expenditure via "austerity" but it's inversely proportional to revenue)

    2 has been happening slowly for years and 1 is being slowly built in to every country's state pensions.

    Which leaves 3 which is quite plainly not going to happen under the current political will in Westminster (not the tax raising bit anyway).

    There are two ways to eradicate a deficit - it's like a diet, spend less or accrue more or both - currently, we're doing the former without the latter (doesn't have to be tax raises - you can sell assets but Britain has busted them already).


    If only a country had some sort of natural resource that they could tax the extraction of to fund an ageing population. That would be too volatile, though.
     
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  6. Mick

    Mick Probably won't answer PMs Staff Member

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    No **** in Scotland currently lives past 70 anyway. English pensioners are nicking about 15 years worth of payouts over you ****s.
     
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  7. Deleted 1

    Deleted 1 Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    If doctors stopped saving lives we wouldn't be in this mess. There's no real justification for anyone to live past 70.
     
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  8. Bib Fortuna's Maw

    Bib Fortuna's Maw Well-Known Member

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    Pensions scare the s**t out of me, admittedly (both in personal terms and state terms).

    Being old and poor (and probably unable to work and bring more cash in) scares the s**t out of me more than anything.

    Get your private pension sorted out when you're young, kids, and don't take "never-never" debt like student loans <ok>
     
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  9. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    Can't we all just get along?
     
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  10. RAVENBLACK

    RAVENBLACK Well-Known Member

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    That applies to the Central Belt only.
     
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    Doesn't bother me at all - no wife, no kids, no property so provided I'm debt free I'll be more than willing to take a happy pill when the time comes.
     
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  12. The Raging Oxter

    The Raging Oxter Well-Known Member

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    Debt = £1.4tn and rising <ok>
     
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  13. User Deleted

    User Deleted Well-Known Member

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    **** yer debt
     
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  14. VenomPD

    VenomPD Merrick jr

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    Go **** yourself. <whistle>
     
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  15. Gambol

    Gambol George Clooney's wee brother

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    Quite so. If we don't get a share of the assets we don't take a share of the debt. That's not defaulting the debt, as some have claimed, because you can't have debt on what you don't own.
     
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  16. Ciaran

    Ciaran Going for 55

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    RAVENBLACK Well-Known Member

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  18. Archers Road

    Archers Road Urban Spaceman

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    I kind of agree. The NHS would be saved a fortune if it limited treatment of the over 70s to palliative care. But I'll get back to you on that when I'm 70.
     
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  19. User Deleted

    User Deleted Well-Known Member

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    No more blood for oil, we got our own battles to fight on our own soil
    No more psychological warfare, to trick us to thinking that we ain't loyal
    If we don't serve our own country, we're patronizing a hero
    Look in his eyes its all lies
    The stars and stripes, they've been swiped, washed down in white
    And replaced with his own face, Mosh now or die
    If I get sniped tonight you know why,
    Cause I told you to fight.
     
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  20. Ciaran

    Ciaran Going for 55

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    The No's are ****ting it.
     
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