Rosberg-Hamilton Incident Debate

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Who's Fault?

  • Rosberg Caused The Crash? (Should Have Backed Out?)

  • Hamilton's Fault? (Cut Across - Lack of Awareness?)

  • Both at fault/Incident/50:50


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I've read "Hamilton cut across Rosberg".

Looked to me like he was just staying on the racing line, since it's, you know, a race.

Entirely avoidable. At no point did Rosbarge have the corner. Should have backed out.
 
Rosberg, he's fast, on an empty track.

it's 80/20 Rosberg, but Lewis should know the guy can't overtake anything close to the same performance and given a little bit of room rather than takes his preferred line. We've seen a lot of incidents like this, some censured, some not, it was just a bad move from someone who can't overtake. This incident has been coming since Hamilton chopped across Rosberg's nose in Bahrain
 
I do think it was rosbergs fault, but what can the team do?
Does anyone know what kind of punishment (if any) the team will give.
 
Rosberg, he's fast, on an empty track.

it's 80/20 Rosberg, but Lewis should know the guy can't overtake anything close to the same performance and given a little bit of room rather than takes his preferred line. We've seen a lot of incidents like this, some censured, some not, it was just a bad move from someone who can't overtake. This incident has been coming since Hamilton chopped across Rosberg's nose in Bahrain

<laugh> ffs nobody would ever go near Pastor then <laugh>
 
Rosberg, he's fast, on an empty track.

it's 80/20 Rosberg, but Lewis should know the guy can't overtake anything close to the same performance and given a little bit of room rather than takes his preferred line. We've seen a lot of incidents like this, some censured, some not, it was just a bad move from someone who can't overtake. This incident has been coming since Hamilton chopped across Rosberg's nose in Bahrain

Yeah, Rosberg wanted to show that he wasn't going to get pushed around again .......... And screwed it up for the team.

I imagine the team are mire annoyed about the negative publicity they will get for this.
 
What I'd like to know, is where this apparent change in rules has occurred?! Every other time I've seen this has happen in F1, there's been a penalty. Hamilton vs Massa, anyone? Yet we get ONE obscure "oh apparently they've relaxed the regulations on racing incidents this year" line of explanation from the pundits?! F1 is as transparent as a turd, at times. Rosberg should have been penalised, it was clearly his fault, as it is 999/1000 when someone behind clips the front car with their wing and causes a puncture.

There wasn't even an investigation for crying out loud! Yet Mags is being investigated for pushing Alonso wide with no contact?!?!

But no, let's let Rosberg barge his way to an F1 title! Drive-through would have been fair all-round I think, and consistent with other penalties.
It happened after the Canada Perez/Massa crash, and no one has got a penalty for anything similar since, for example Massa and Magnussen in Germany. It's quite clear to the non-Hamelots that it's a racing incident.
 
I do think it was rosbergs fault, but what can the team do?
Does anyone know what kind of punishment (if any) the team will give.

The team won't give him any punishment whatsoever, why would they, he's just given them 18 points <ok>

The stewards should have punished him, but didn't. Really, it just sums up the inconsistency with which the laws are applied in F1. This whole lets bring a different ex driver into the briefing at each race is just nonsense, because they're going to call things differently from the next man. We need one set of stewards coming up with a clear and concise ruling of what they constitute a "racing incident" and what is in fact an infraction, and then that to be applied unilaterally applied throughout the season. I think any neutral would be forgiven for thinking they simply make up the rules to suit them most weeks!
 
It happened after the Canada Perez/Massa crash, and no one has got a penalty for anything similar since, for example Massa and Magnussen in Germany. It's quite clear to the non-Hamelots that it's a racing incident.

So, mid-season, they've made a change in the rules or the application of them, without informing anybody and just letting everyone guess at what they're doing? Sounds legit <doh>
 
without informing anybody

There was an uproar earlier in the season when they started disqualifying laps in qualifying for going outside track limits, and there's been a backlash since last season for the over-aggressive punishment of collisions. They then announced publicly they would stop doing that and also be taking a more lenient approach to racing incidents to stop F1 being so over-regulated.

Hope that helps <ok>
 
There was an uproar earlier in the season when they started disqualifying laps in qualifying for going outside track limits, and there's been a backlash since last season for the over-aggressive punishment of collisions. They then announced publicly they would stop doing that and also be taking a more lenient approach to racing incidents to stop F1 being so over-regulated.

Hope that helps <ok>

It would actually be "helpful" if you posted a link to where anybody in commentary mentioned this change in application <ok>

I've watched all the pre-race, post-race ****, and it's the first I've heard that they're going to start calling these obvious infractions "racing incidents".
 
It would actually be "helpful" if you posted a link to where anybody in commentary mentioned this change in application <ok>

I've watched all the pre-race, post-race ****, and it's the first I've heard that they're going to start calling these obvious infractions "racing incidents".

...You yourself posted in this thread earlier that they mentioned it in the commentary.