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Scotch Independence - the countdown

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by stopmeandslapme, Feb 5, 2014.

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Should Scotland be an Independent Country?

  1. Yes

  2. No

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  1. The Anilingus Aficionado

    The Anilingus Aficionado Official POTY 2011, 2014, 2015, 2018 & 2023

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  2. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    Just give me your candidate number and i'll double check <whistle>
     
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  3. RAVENBLACK

    RAVENBLACK Well-Known Member

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    Has anyone else noticed that you never see Paul Gadd and Dev in the same room together?

    Strange that eh.
     
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  4. Spurf

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    You are unbelievable. Do you NEED wealthy people to look after you? Are you afraid all on your little own? I am a business man not a socialists. Capitalism is the natural order of human beings any other system requires imposition and discipline which the human race clearly does not have.

    However Capitalism does not have to be the neo-liberal version which eventualy explodes (as it has, the crash!) this system gradually reduces our customers (The mass of the populus) to a state where they cannot afford to buy things.

    At the moment Scotland, like the rest of the UK is in the grip of neo-liberalism which is frantically selling everything it can lay its hands on. This is no better than the the post war Labour party nationalising everything it could lay its hands on. If we continue down this road we will all face ruin, except of course the very fattest cats who will simply move somewhere else. This is how Britain became 'Great' we went around the world exploiting the resources of others. Now we using that same tactic on our own people bcause all the rest are now INDEPENDENT. Get it?
     
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  5. Girvan Loyal 1690

    Girvan Loyal 1690 Nobody's safe now

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    Oh What a Fool I've Been
     
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  6. Ciaran

    Ciaran Going for 55

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    Ooooft the Spurf man is in the house and 'stylin the NO campers as per <laugh>
     
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  7. The Anilingus Aficionado

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  8. The Anilingus Aficionado

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  9. RAVENBLACK

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    ****** Alert ^^^^^^^^^^^
     
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  10. Spurf

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    The response says it all. <laugh>
     
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  11. Mick

    Mick Probably won't answer PMs
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    So, how you going to stop the Neo-Liberalism in an independent Scotland?
     
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  12. Ciaran

    Ciaran Going for 55

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    They have no answer, my man.
     
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  13. A.L.D.O 4.1

    A.L.D.O 4.1 1 of the top defendants in Europe

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    Ship them all to Banbury
     
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  14. RAVENBLACK

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    The answer is that the SNP cannot tell the honest taxpayer what Independence will cost us.

    That's why they are lagging behind you daft Oirish prick.
     
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  15. The Anilingus Aficionado

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    You are clearly an excitably deranged porridge-wog. I don't need anyone to look after me. You are a business man? That's great.

    Capitalism will always result in busts. Always has, always will. If everything grew infinitely, then we would have millions of everything. I'm not saying our system of Cronyism Capitalism is great, I don't see why we should gamble the future on a flight of fancy that could weaken the whole state (Scotland and the residual UK). Of course, the opposite could happen, though I don't see the SNP offering up how they will achieve that.

    Apart from completely contradicting yourself, regarding neoliberalsim and nationalising, can you tell me how Scotland will operate differently? In case you hadn't noticed, the Jocks have always been well represented in various UK governments, endorsing the economics of the state. What makes you think that the Westminster Jocks will not come 'home' and implement neoliberalsim here, or nationalise everything again?

    You are not offering anything to the debate, convince me to vote Yes. (If I lived in Scotland that is) Your negative scare stories are no better than the No folks.
     
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  16. A.L.D.O 4.1

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    It won't cost you a bean. You will be dead very soon <party>
     
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  17. Spurf

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    Good question Mick and there are no guarantees of course but Scotland by its very nature is more likley to elect a left of centre government than a right wing government. The Labour party would heve to revert to something like its original self to become electable and anyway it would not be under pressure to appeal to so called middle Englanders as it has to now. The common Weal http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/common-weal-splits-from-reid-foundation.24935918 Is an example of how a growing number of people are looking at new ways for an Independent Scotland to be.

    There is no point in voting for Independence just to become a smaller version of the Westminster project. This YES movement is now big enough and diverse enough that it will continue whatever the outcome of THIS referrendum, it's not going away, any time soon. I am working with Business for Scotland which I have mentioned before, this is over 2200 |Scottish companies who realise the potential of an Independent Scotland to have a prosporous exciting future rather just more of the austerity from Westminster so that they can finish their rape job. http://www.businessforscotland.co.uk/
     
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  18. The Raging Oxter

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    The dim-witted old dribbler seems to forget how many billions it's going to cost us to stay part of the union.
     
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  19. Spurf

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    See my reply to Mick <ok>
     
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  20. RAVENBLACK

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    The Central Belt contributes **** all anyway so what's your beef ****ter?
     
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