Scotch Independence - the countdown

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Should Scotland be an Independent Country?

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But wee Margot has rented a house off the state for 30 years, never took up the option to buy, and the subsidy she received for her extra bedrooms that she doesn't need and (wee Stacey and her 4 weans have been on the waiting list for a house for 18 months) had her benefits cut because the State is nearing debt equal to 90% GDP, not because Google dodges a bit of CT, but because the State is grossly overspending.

Now, depending on who you believe, Scotland will have a defecit, whereas the Tories are trying to close the deficit in the next parliament. For some reason, people think that the State should not act responsibly with THEIR money. If I earn £20k a year and spend £22k in year one, £23k in year two plus the interest on year one's overspend, and this goes on for 20 years, then I'll be ****ed.

All we're doing is condemning the next generation to our debt legacy and ruining the future of the UK. Quite how showering ****s with benefits will fix this is really perplexing.

Are you including people like the Duke of Buccleuch in your benefits problem, or the bankers and their benefits. Buccleuch received some 200'000 in benefits last year a bit more than wee Margot and the Bankers! there benefits were beyond the dreams of averice.We do agree on the state overspending but that's about it. The system creates the wee Margots uses them and spits them out it therefore has some duty to make sure they dont starve or freeze to death. We would have less Margots if we had a proper education system and we would have less Margots if we had a fairer society.

You sit in nice comfortable Banbury and spout on.
 
Are you including people like the Duke of Buccleuch in your benefits problem, or the bankers and their benefits. Buccleuch received some 200'000 in benefits last year a bit more than wee Margot and the Bankers! there benefits were beyond the dreams of averice.We do agree on the state overspending but that's about it. The system creates the wee Margots uses them and spits them out it therefore has some duty to make sure they dont starve or freeze to death. We would have less Margots if we had a proper education system and we would have less Margots if we had a fairer society.

You sit in nice comfortable Banbury and spout on.

You are a clown and have been 'styled, royally, as per the script.

Now toddle off back down your shortbread mine and chase some haggis' or whatever you thick Jocks get up to!
 
If the BBC is left you must be right of, yes you guessed, it Atilla the Hun.

So what were Atilla's views on the economy, migration, benefits that you know he was 'right' wing. Do you even know what right wing means you caber tossing spastic!

You really need to **** off and go back to finding Nessie or whatever it is you mutant Jocks get up to up there <doh>
 
There`s an awful lot of rationalisation for being an arselicking ****ebag going on on this thread.

It depends on your perspective. If you view Scotland as being an English colony, which it isn't and never was, then you could let nationalistic pride take over, should you suffer from such an affliction. I on the otherhand see nationalism as the measles of mankind and can't see the benefit, thus far, of breaking up the Union that has served both nations so well.

Plus, the overly leftist rhetoric being peddled by wealth hating establishments like the radical left, Salmond going on about social justice, whatever that is, doesn't fill me with confidence that an Independent Scotland would be able to prosper. What really worries me that they go down a route which will result in Scotland being like Ireland after the left the Empire. 50 years of economic misery until they realised that the world is a big place and they went to the right, which in turn led to huge economic growth, albeit, they got burned when they allowed their banks to get too big.
 
It depends on your perspective. If you view Scotland as being an English colony, which it isn't and never was, then you could let nationalistic pride take over, should you suffer from such an affliction. I on the otherhand see nationalism as the measles of mankind and can't see the benefit, thus far, of breaking up the Union that has served both nations so well.

Plus, the overly leftist rhetoric being peddled by wealth hating establishments like the radical left, Salmond going on about social justice, whatever that is, doesn't fill me with confidence that an Independent Scotland would be able to prosper. What really worries me that they go down a route which will result in Scotland being like Ireland after the left the Empire. 50 years of economic misery until they realised that the world is a big place and they went to the right, which in turn led to huge economic growth, albeit, they got burned when they allowed their banks to get too big.

Aye but Salmond was over on the IoM last year talking up the low tax model... you basically know for certain that an independent Scotland is going to be liberal when it comes to business (I think it was rogueleader who chastised me earlier on this thread for pointing out the ****ing obvious in this regard).

Vote Yes ya ****, then NI can break off this smelly union too, we can all go low tax/pro-business, and I can finally get a job at home.
 
Aye but Salmond was over on the IoM last year talking up the low tax model... you basically know for certain that an independent Scotland is going to be liberal when it comes to business (I think it was rogueleader who chastised me earlier on this thread for pointing out the ****ing obvious in this regard).

Vote Yes ya ****, then NI can break off this smelly union too, we can all go low tax/pro-business, and I can finally get a job at home.

Thank **** there's a hope of that happening, as if you serve us any purpose at all <doh>

You degenerates would all kill each other a few hours after the paperwork was signed anyways.
 
Ireland's union with England is older than ours. Even in Independence for Scotland, Ireland will still be with England.

You are a colony and have been for 600 years :grin:
 
Thank **** there's a hope of that happening, as if you serve us any purpose at all

You degenerates would all kill each other a few hours after the paperwork was signed anyways.

I'd respect your opinions more if you had actually ever been north of London, or even knew anything at all about what you are talking about <ok>
 
I'd respect your opinions more if you had actually ever been north of London, or even knew anything at all about what you are talking about <ok>

I've been as far norf as Oldham, and thank **** for that. I've travelled a lot round nice countries though, I have absolutely no desire to visit the norf of the UK or any of the ****ty little countries that surround it. <ok>