Borini
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Does he not realise how bad it makes him look if in the end he does come?! Would be interesting to hear what he had to say on the matter.
Poyet has said basically that as its alot of money he needs to know what he's getting and cos we had him here last season we know exactly what we would get. But it doesnt say much for our scouting network if we cant find even better on the continent for that amount of money. There must be a few and who aren't relucant to come! What's the point of bringing someone in that doesn't appear to want to come. Niall Quinn always said it has to be a certain type of player to play for us...someone that wanted to play up here and had the right attitude and could play in front of 40,000 plus crowds. I'd move on and move on to plan B now!
Poyet has said basically that as its alot of money he needs to know what he's getting and cos we had him here last season we know exactly what we would get. But it doesnt say much for our scouting network if we cant find even better on the continent for that amount of money. There must be a few and who aren't relucant to come! What's the point of bringing someone in that doesn't appear to want to come. Niall Quinn always said it has to be a certain type of player to play for us...someone that wanted to play up here and had the right attitude and could play in front of 40,000 plus crowds. I'd move on and move on to plan B now!
Borini would become our most expensive signing at £14m and a massive move for the player. Given all these factors this was never going to be straight forward. He enjoyed his year here and we enjoyed seeing him play but we were a bottom 3 team for 90% of the campaign and he has aspirations to be much better.
We aren't a top 6 or 7 team (yet) and I don't blame him for thinking it right through. I still believe he will sign before Saturdays game and will compliment our other good signings totally. A midfield from Giacherinni, Rodwell, Gomez, Johnson, Larsson, Cattermole, Bridcutt and Mavrias will be a canny one IMO.
Wickham and Fletcher up front will do for me too.
We aren't a top 6 or 7 team (yet) and I don't blame him for thinking it right through. I still believe he will sign before Saturdays game and will compliment our other good signings totally. A midfield from Giacherinni, Rodwell, Gomez, Johnson, Larsson, Cattermole, Bridcutt and Mavrias will be a canny one IMO.
Wickham and Fletcher up front will do for me too.
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@Erin_ONeill_Xo
@SunderlandAFC11 @AnfieldOutline this is a load of crap. How irritating. Wish ppl would stop bitching over an artificial story ��delete pls
Poor lass is really getting it
@Erin_ONeill_Xo
@SunderlandAFC11 @AnfieldOutline this is a load of crap. How irritating. Wish ppl would stop bitching over an artificial story ��delete pls
Poor lass is really getting it
Is this with regards to people saying she's the reason he hasn't signed? I read tweets saying she wouldn't leave Liverpool and just put it down to speculation. I've seen her name linked to this transfer too many times now though. Sick of it and she's not helped herself by responding to it.
Steven Taylor is dead to me
i thought he died
[video=youtube;vl3HnU0HOhk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vl3HnU0HOhk[/video]
its more from liverpool fans i think mate
she wants to be back home from what can be gathered, she has set herself up like, should have kept her powder dry in the first place
Borini will be at Sunderland next season and on a permanent deal, not a loan ......... I'm sure of it.
The fact that he's saying nothing means negotiations are ongoing imo. His past behaviour confirms that.
Football contracts are incredibly complicated these days and Borini is in a long expensive contract at Liverpool.
It seems that contract details are more important to Borini than either his career or his integrity.
When he was at Swansea he went through an entire season secretly knowing he had already signed an agreement to go to Parma.
He had pretended he would be leaving Chelsea for Swansea, that was dishonest to say the least.
Parma & Chelsea had to go to the FIFA 'court' to resolve the financial payments as the clubs couldn't agree.
These negotiations rumbled on for 2 years.
Despite the difficult & protracted negotiations that took Borini to Parma he left on another incredibly complicated loan to Roma.
That was after only one month!
This was his 'home town club' yet, despite the huge effort Parma made to sign him, he never made a single appearance for the club..
The deal included an option to buy which was invoked although Roma only acquired 50% of Borini ....... his agent made a huge £150,000 from that part of the deal alone. Roma then had to enter a 'blind auction' to buy the other 50% of the player.
Incredibly only a month later Borini left the club to sign for Liverpool.
So, it's obvious that Borini had no loyalty to any of his clubs, not even his home town club .....
..... why should he have any loyalty to Sunderland?
He's a modern football player ...... a soulless itinerant mercenary who's best friend in his agent. He's 23 and has already kissed the badges of half a dozen clubs, has won nowt and seems little interested in his country.
Every single transfer he's been involved in has been wrought with clauses, bonuses & disputes.
If anyone believes he'll be attracted to Sunderland by a day out at Wembley or the supporters singing his name then that's their business. If he comes to Sunderland, as I believe, it will be for money and money alone.
I'll cheer every goal but I'll be cheering the badge & the shirt.
The fact that he's saying nothing means negotiations are ongoing imo. His past behaviour confirms that.
Football contracts are incredibly complicated these days and Borini is in a long expensive contract at Liverpool.
It seems that contract details are more important to Borini than either his career or his integrity.
When he was at Swansea he went through an entire season secretly knowing he had already signed an agreement to go to Parma.
He had pretended he would be leaving Chelsea for Swansea, that was dishonest to say the least.
Parma & Chelsea had to go to the FIFA 'court' to resolve the financial payments as the clubs couldn't agree.
These negotiations rumbled on for 2 years.
Despite the difficult & protracted negotiations that took Borini to Parma he left on another incredibly complicated loan to Roma.
That was after only one month!
This was his 'home town club' yet, despite the huge effort Parma made to sign him, he never made a single appearance for the club..
The deal included an option to buy which was invoked although Roma only acquired 50% of Borini ....... his agent made a huge £150,000 from that part of the deal alone. Roma then had to enter a 'blind auction' to buy the other 50% of the player.
Incredibly only a month later Borini left the club to sign for Liverpool.
So, it's obvious that Borini had no loyalty to any of his clubs, not even his home town club .....
..... why should he have any loyalty to Sunderland?
He's a modern football player ...... a soulless itinerant mercenary who's best friend in his agent. He's 23 and has already kissed the badges of half a dozen clubs, has won nowt and seems little interested in his country.
Every single transfer he's been involved in has been wrought with clauses, bonuses & disputes.
If anyone believes he'll be attracted to Sunderland by a day out at Wembley or the supporters singing his name then that's their business. If he comes to Sunderland, as I believe, it will be for money and money alone.
I'll cheer every goal but I'll be cheering the badge & the shirt.
Great detective work! All makes sense now i suppose...he's still pissing me off like!
Although he only played a dozen or so games for Swansea he scored for them at Wembley and was worshipped by the Swansea supporters.
Ring any bells?
He left for Parma but only ever wore the shirt once .......... for the media cameras on the day he signed!
He was born 30 minutes from Bologna where him and his dad supported the team.
He was taken on by them as a kid who coached him for 6 years.
He rewarded them by leaving for Abramovich's money at Chelsea when he was 16 years old.
A pattern certainly seems to have followed him through his career.
We have to ask ourselves a serious question,
Will Borini come here for the glamour of life in the NE, the chance to play alongside Billy Jones, the shiny pink seats or the money?
There's only one answer if we're being honest.
Your article really puts things in perspective Smug. By coincidence, as I was reading it, they were just talking about Nasri on SkySports 1, Sunday Supplement, of his interview in one of today's red tops (I think, switched on half-way through), where he gives an honest view from the players perspective, especially the foreign players. It's all about their career, their own futures in the game and the money. He admits a clear disconnect between the players and the fans (my para-phrasing).
Like one of the journo's said, the players kiss the badge and move on. Fans dont or can't transfer to another club. They expect players to be loyal to the club they love and are angered when they move on, or whatever.
I agree with you, I think Borini will sign for us, but it will be for his own short and longer term plans and ambitions and there's nowt wrong with that. We just need to take advantage of his time with us while he's here.
First time anyone's ever called one of my posts that mate, I'll take it as a compliment.I reckon Borini will come on a permanent deal with a 'get out' clause, and a release amount, hoping to attract a bid after a good season.
To be honest it would be better for us to have another season long loan during which time we can find a suitable long term replacement.
I know people will have a pop at me for suggesting another loan but, **** it, if he signs a 10 year contract he'll only be here for a season.
At least if it's a loan we won't end up feeling betrayed like we did with Bent & Gyan.
I'll tell you what, here's summat else no one seems to have sussed.
Borini's best football is always when he's on loan!
He's only scored ONE goal, in his entire career, when he's not been on loan .......... eh?
That was off the bench in a 6-0 win at Newcastle when Liverpool had already won.
(He might've scored in some minor European match that I can't remember.)
When the pressure is on, as it would be after signing a big deal at Sunderland, he'd be a totally different player.
How would we feel if we fork out £14 million, on a highly paid 5 year contract, and he's ****e?
Why is no one else trying to sign him, either here or abroad, when goals are gold?
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