o/t another Malay plane downed

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interestingly all US crafts - flight plans were diverted around the Ukraine when the the Crimean situation escalated months ago why not Malay aircraft?- I honestly reckon there's plots within plots afoot here today, no-one will ever know the 'truth' it'll be like 9/11 and all the other 'tragedies'-systematically covered up and so paving the way for further laws brought in to eventually eradicate our freedoms - I don't trust any Government/Politician and I do not believe they have 'the public' interest at heart
 
interestingly all US crafts - flight plans were diverted around the Ukraine when the the Crimean situation escalated months ago why not Malay aircraft?- I honestly reckon there's plots within plots afoot here today, no-one will ever know the 'truth' it'll be like 9/11 and all the other 'tragedies'-systematically covered up and so paving the way for further laws brought in to eventually eradicate our freedoms - I don't trust any Government/Politician and I do not believe they have 'the public' interest at heart

I'm sticking with pontins, haven and centre parcs from here on in
 
I dont know if its because youre mackems or if this is a mirror of the general population but the sheer amount of people who believe in all these conspiracies is frightening. And it paints a bleak pictures of our education system and our populations capacity to think critically.

There's a rebel commander on twitter from a known seperatist outlet saying they downed a ukrainian armed forces transport aircraft within minutes of the incident. They themselves bragged only a week ago about capturing anti aircraft missle launchers. This isn't MH370. There's real people whos relatives aren't coming home with this flight too so show some f**ing respect and don't repeat these mindless speculations.

This is a huge **** up by the seperatists and Putins got blood all over his hands. Maybe Malaysia airlines has been reckless allowing their planes to take this route but they didn't fire the missile.
 
I dont know if its because youre mackems or if this is a mirror of the general population but the sheer amount of people who believe inconspiracies is frightening. And it paints a bleak pictures of our education system and our populations capacity to think critically.

There's a rebel commander on twitter saying they downed a ukrainian armed forces transport aircraft within minutes of the incident. This isn't MH370. There's real people whos relatives aren't coming home with this flight too so show some ****ing respect and don't repeat these mindless speculations.

**** off. So the people of mh370 didn't have relatives? **** off.
 
Yeah they have relatives, and you're being disrespectful by claiming it's the same aircraft. How ****ing dumb are you actually?
 
I dont know if its because youre mackems or if this is a mirror of the general population but the sheer amount of people who believe in all these conspiracies is frightening. And it paints a bleak pictures of our education system and our populations capacity to think critically.

There's a rebel commander on twitter from a known seperatist outlet saying they downed a ukrainian armed forces transport aircraft within minutes of the incident. They themselves bragged only a week ago about capturing anti aircraft missle launchers. This isn't MH370. There's real people whos relatives aren't coming home with this flight too so show some f**ing respect and don't repeat these mindless speculations.

This is a huge **** up by the seperatists and Putins got blood all over his hands. Maybe Malaysia airlines has been reckless allowing their planes to take this route but they didn't fire the missile.

folk can think what the **** they like, and debate it anyway they please, now you've had yours in an antagonising way, got anything to add?
 
Yeah they have relatives, and you're being disrespectful by claiming it's the same aircraft. How ****ing dumb are you actually?

on a scale to 1 - ban your on 9 pal, we or you have no idea if anybody on this forum has been immediately affected by tonights events, maybe somebody has, i suggest you show some respect and not look upon it as an opportunity to have a dig at 'Mackems' your choice?
 
Possibly it is just coincidental that it is a Malaysian plane as that is the main commercial route from Europe to South Asia. Could have been any airline. US probably stopped as airlines have share codes and many of the passengers would have booked with allied sharing airlines.

This is cold blooded massacre regardless of who did it.
 
Isn't it a fair question? How come there are so many folks believing in conspiracies? In the meanwhile it feels like more than half of people do. Albeit they're probably just the louder half, especially on the internet.

Sure is sickening and a very significant event. Every 'counter terrorist' expert for years has been warning against some kind of armed irregular force getting their hands on advance anti aircraft weaponry and turning those weapons against civilian airlines (intentional or otherwise). Can only hope something good comes out of this and Putin will urge the seperatists to negotiate and stop supplying weapons.

Americans wont get involved, they're sick of fighting wars that don't bring any benefits. The last 14 years will reshape american foreign policy for the next century. They'll go back to paying off dictators.
 
Yeah they have relatives, and you're being disrespectful by claiming it's the same aircraft. How ****ing dumb are you actually?

People who come on with a post solely to take some warped pathetic form of moral high ground though...

It's natural and inevitable that people will speculate around ANY event.

You just come across as a sad ****ing loser trying to engineer a bit of local rivalry one upmanship into a post regarding a tragedy, ironic really.
 
Tip of the iceberg no doubt.

I try my damnedest not to immerse myself into too much bad news on a daily basis, I live my life relatively worry free and as a result I'm unable to join in with certain debates that I'm not really clued up on. It's a small price to pay for me, if I absorbed all the bad goings on I think I'd probably be a very miserable person.

This. Except it gets to the point where I almost ignore everything going on.

Ignorance really is bliss.
 
Isn't it a fair question? How come there are so many folks believing in conspiracies? In the meanwhile it feels like more than half of people do. Albeit they're probably just the louder half, especially on the internet.

Sure is sickening and a very significant event. Every 'counter terrorist' expert for years has been warning against some kind of armed irregular force getting their hands on advance anti aircraft weaponry and turning those weapons against civilian airlines (intentional or otherwise). Can only hope something good comes out of this and Putin will urge the seperatists to negotiate and stop supplying weapons.

Americans wont get involved, they're sick of fighting wars that don't bring any benefits. The last 14 years will reshape american foreign policy for the next century. They'll go back to paying off dictators.

its a conspiracy/ignorance until you have facts
 
This. Except it gets to the point where I almost ignore everything going on.

Ignorance really is bliss.

Ironic how the Worlds steadily growing attention is suddenly diverted away by the 'news media' from the terrible atrocities in Palestine (I'm not taking any sides in that obscene war apart from saying that fundamentalist crap in all its various guises needs to eradicated ) to the tragedy today- so Israel & The Palestinians can go unrelentingly bombing the **** out of each other while no-ones watching
 
But the facts are never enough are they? There's still people walking around today believing the americans blew up the twin towers themselves. There's probably someone reading this thread right now who's certain of just that.

In a medical capacity whenever someone voices conspiracy theories I immediately am lead to believe there's a mental pathology going on, because I can tell you every schizophrenic or psychotic patient I've been around had a bunch of conspiracy ideas buzzing boucing off the walls of their mind, but not a large portion of the popolation suffers from paranoid ideas, so something else must be going on. Is it boredom? Fiction media? How is it natural to wildly speculate?
 
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