It is sometimes written into contracts that the ex-manager can't ask for players...though I suspect that would only hold for one season...just so a team isn't further unsettled.
Thank you Pochettino thread
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MP's management "team" is the assistant coaches he works with, not the players he manages. If it turns out MP is only successful when he has Lovren, Schneiderlin, etc. then you have to question whether he is even a good manager or if it's the players that are good.
No, the people he managed, his team, are the players. I really don't get your premise here? Ask yourself - would Lovren and Schneiderlin improve Tottenham's team/squad. The answer is yes because they're both good players. That doesn't mean he can only manage a team with them in.....?
Restrictive convenants are often written into contracts for the majority of management positions, but are devilishly hard to enforce.
I think its perfectly normal for people to be a bit annoyed on here with Poch. And yes I'd be annoyed if he came back and bought our better players. It would be rubbing salt in the wound for goodness sake. At present it feels like we are falling from the crest of a wave onto some hard wet sand.
I think (well for me) that there is the realisation by some that we are back to being a mid table side......probably. I sincerely hope I am wrong, and we attract a decent manager to push us on.
Everyone deals with the disappointment differently. Lets face it football is a bit tribal, people aren't always rational about it and will clearly get emotional. Seems we have the rational police, and the ones that let it all out. For the record, I also find Spurs irritating.
I think (well for me) that there is the realisation by some that we are back to being a mid table side......probably. I sincerely hope I am wrong, and we attract a decent manager to push us on.
Everyone deals with the disappointment differently. Lets face it football is a bit tribal, people aren't always rational about it and will clearly get emotional. Seems we have the rational police, and the ones that let it all out. For the record, I also find Spurs irritating.
i think someone suggested the covenants could be imposed on tottenham if they wanted permission to speak to our manager, but if poch pays the £2m presumably we couldn't hold them over a barrel.
Don't get me wrong, I totally get the irritation - hell, I'm annoyed myself - and I wish he had some greater emotional attachment to us that had made him stay - I'm a massive, massive fan of his as a manager. I'm far from being the rational police either (I was anything but when Adkins was sacked). However I just don't think realistically we can sit here and firstly criticise him (without all the details) for an ambitious move, or expect him not to include any of our better players when he looks at people he would like to recruit on his new project (please not, I say 'like to' recruit, not 'will').
It's just......well, that's just life really, not just football.
In theory, I could have been stopped from working for another medical research company for a year, but it was never used that I know of. Think it would only be enacted at the highest level or under the most extreme circumstances. On the other hand, I know a hairdresser who signed a contract to say that she wouldn't work in the same town for a year.
I agree with this sentiment. Thank him and admire what he did for us, but once he's gone, he's gone.
Yes, but its frustrating. Perhaps the limits have been set by Poch's actions (or the board) for this football club? All of the talk regards 'the sky's the limit for this team' has fallen down a well. Of course it may be about not getting assurances from the board, we'll have to wait and see I guess. But if we don't push on now, then what's next.
Edit: Now the inevitable has happened, I'm quite excited to see who the new guy will be!
For me it depends upon the team. If you have massive resources and the you are swapping out the best players in the world for other best players in the world that might suit your style a little better, then yeah okay. Like Chelsea doesn't need to care that they had a great team already and are in some respects trading sideways when Mourinho replaces them with Mourinho guys.
I don't think Tottenham is quite at that level. If I were Tottenham, I'd be thinking I already have a team that is capable or nearly capable of qualifying/playing in CL. What I would want is for MP to figure out how to make get the best out of Lamela. If he can get Lamela to play to his supposed potential and Paulinho takes a step up (which I would expect him to do with a full season now under his belt) they could finish top 4 right there.
I think his mission at Tottenham would be very similar to what it was here, only with better resources at his disposal. He should take the squad he already has and turn them into better players so they don't have to compete on the transfer market with the big clubs, and develop their academy products into young stars which unlike us, they think they will be able to keep.
I think that Lovren and Schneiderlin are capable of playing CL, but so are a lot of players that Tottenham could conceivably attract are already have. If MP can get them to Tottenham for dirt cheap because of his relationship with them, then yeah sure. But I think both of those two (if they want to go) might be more interested in Liverpool or Arsenal.
They hired MP to find the next/better Lovren and Schneiderlin, not to reacquire them at what might very well be market price. And if Lovren and Schneiderlin come over because of MP, what happens if things don't work out and MP leaves or gets sacked? With us, we will profit from selling those two players regardless because we got them cheap. Tottenham might not. They can't afford to shuffle out two or three players (or more) from their team every time due simply to frictional issues associated with comings and goings.
They already went through that with AVB where he got rid of a bunch of new players and was given a big budget to get others with mixed results.. To my mind, AVB wasn't that bad a manager but he wasn't taking them where they wanted to be and they didn't like his style which is fine to sack him but then all of that changing of players/philosophy/politics/transitional friction set them back as for example, they got Soldaldo and now are selling Soldado.
That makes more sense, but say some of those players don't or can't get MPs philosophy - human nature to go for the devil you know, though saying that, I agree that they have enough there already. What they need are full backs. Now look at what Clyne said about MP. But as has been said, let's wait and see!
Our players won't be dirt cheap because MP knows them...their price will be the one set by their contracted club...and judging by Lallana that will be high. Spurs could get players cheaper elsewhere.
Actually, it should have made less sense because I just realized my tablet brutalized my spelling/grammar! Hard to type in a touchpad looking at a 6" screen. My apologies.
Once everyone has had a shout about Pochettino's lack of loyalty, I suggest we need to wind our necks in. Most of us were very upset when Nigel was fired....for a few games, then Nicola had done the right thing. We had no problem when players who had won us promotion were dropped like a stone come the new season, so asking for loyalty is a bit rich. Loyal player gets an injury? Pity...get him off the payroll ASAP!
So if it is confirmed that MP has gone I will be disappointed and concerned at why he felt Spurs were a better bet. But I shall not waste my energy in anger. I support the club, regardless of who's the manager. I have enjoyed the best season I can remember. I hope it's not the high-water mark for Saints. Time will tell.
So if it is confirmed that MP has gone I will be disappointed and concerned at why he felt Spurs were a better bet. But I shall not waste my energy in anger. I support the club, regardless of who's the manager. I have enjoyed the best season I can remember. I hope it's not the high-water mark for Saints. Time will tell.
With hesitancy. Our players have been used to playing attacking passing football for so long now that a switch to a defensive 4-4-2 might ruin us.
Having said that, Moyes will have a lot to prove, and i believe he will have learned a lot from his time at United. Not only that, but he is great at spotting bargains.
would I take Moyes' everton brand football is perhaps the thing to dwell on. would our academy thrive with that as the end product?
I think not.
If Moyes can adapt, yes. He made hard work of adapting to his last job though.
I'd prefer McClaren on recent evidence.