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From the reporting it appears that Sunderland did obtain the required approval once but then for some reason I don't understand needed to obtain it a second time.

The complexities are beyond me but that may be a valid reason for fining them instead of deducting points. If, for example, the second clearance was just a rubber stamping process while the initial clearance is something of more substance then it might make sense to treat one type of breach differently from the other.

While you can't assume the FA will be consistent, it's probably also not fair to assume they're always inconsistent.

Away with you if you can't play the mackem bashing game properly.
 
But surely it is the Club's responsibility to make sure that it does understand the complexities of the situation and act accordingly.

The fact remains that MK Dons were knocked out of the League Cup by a team fielding a player who should not have been on the pitch.

The FA have bottled it because it is only a little club that has been affected.

If Ji had played in either the Chelsea or Man Utd games, I doubt whether the FA would have taken such a lenient course of action.


Of course it's the club's responsibility: that's why they were fined.

It's my responsibility to not park illegally just as much as its my responsibility not to drive while drunk. That doesn't mean the penalty should be the same in both cases . . .


Errr, I mean, um, God Damn Mackems, club should be liquidated
 
All of this is good news. It will give the mackems something else to worry about and hopefully take their minds further off those important games coming up.

It's a double whammy.....it adds to our Warm Glow and makes their Dull Gloom even more duller.

p.s. a medal must surely go to the woman who caused all this.....I wonder if she is a secret Mag? :emoticon-0102-bigsm
 
Of course it's the club's responsibility: that's why they were fined.

It's my responsibility to not park illegally just as much as its my responsibility not to drive while drunk. That doesn't mean the penalty should be the same in both cases . . .


Errr, I mean, um, God Damn Mackems, club should be liquidated

So you are saying that the punishment should suit the crime?

Then surely any points gained from playing an ineligible player should be docked.

The punishment for the cup game is much more difficult, granted, but MK Dons should receive some kind of compensation
 
So you are saying that the punishment should suit the crime?

Then surely any points gained from playing an ineligible player should be docked.

The punishment for the cup game is much more difficult, granted, but MK Dons should receive some kind of compensation

The punishment should suit the crime. Trouble is I don't know what the crime involved.

A failure to properly register a player, for example, due to having mistakenly paid £1,000 as a registration fee when the correct figure was £1,001 might warrant a lesser penalty than a failure to properly register being caused by the fact that it is impossible to legally register the player in question. That would in fact seem sensible to me.

Awarding the same penalty of docking points because the player wasn't properly registered in either case strikes me as wrong.

I don't know how close the Sunderland scenario is the 1-pound-short scenario. if it was something similar, though, docking points might be excessive.

Err, I mean, God Damn Mackems, send them to League 2
 
The punishment should suit the crime. Trouble is I don't know what the crime involved.

A failure to properly register a player, for example, due to having mistakenly paid £1,000 as a registration fee when the correct figure was £1,001 might warrant a lesser penalty than a failure to properly register being caused by the fact that it is impossible to legally register the player in question. That would in fact seem sensible to me.

Awarding the same penalty of docking points because the player wasn't properly registered in either case strikes me as wrong.

I don't know how close the Sunderland scenario is the 1-pound-short scenario. if it was something similar, though, docking points might be excessive.

Err, I mean, God Damn Mackems, send them to League 2

Well, imho, they are a Premiership club and as such, should know the rules when it comes to registering and re-registering their players. With a turnover of around £100 million there is no excuse for not employing someone who knows the rules. Ignorance is not an excuse.

The registration process is there for a reason and a club should not be allowed to benefit from playing anyone who is not properly registered. It doesn't matter whether it is Sunderland, Newcastle or AFC Wimbledon, any points gained under these circumstances should be docked and given to the club they played. In this case that would be Southampton, which doesn't do us any favours, but it is only fair.
 
Just downright cheating, knowing fine well what they had done, they didn't even report it until December.
Cheats and should be treat accordingly.

Points deduction and banned from next years League Cup, otherwise it makes there deliberate cheating ok.
 
I agree with the above and if Southampton and Sunderland's places were reversed I'm sure Sunderland would want the same thing.
 
The official line from the FA is that they were more lenient on Sunderland (in terms of not deducting points) as they are fully aware that the locals are illiterate and would have no chance of completing the appropriate paperwork adequately. Also, as the Mackems haven't learnt about subtraction yet, they wouldn't understand the impact of such a punishment. That's what it says on the official FA site anyway. <ok>

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The official line from the FA is that they were more lenient on Sunderland (in terms of not deducting points) as they are fully aware that the locals are illiterate and would have no chance of completing the appropriate paperwork adequately. Also, as the Mackems haven't learnt about subtraction yet, they wouldn't understand the impact of such a punishment. That's what it says on the official FA site anyway. <ok>

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That's ok then, we should take everything into consideration.
 
Just downright cheating, knowing fine well what they had done, they didn't even report it until December.
Cheats and should be treat accordingly.

Points deduction and banned from next years League Cup, otherwise it makes there deliberate cheating ok.

They should be deducted any points gained and should compensate MK Dons who they cheated out of chance of a potential pay day.
 
What the frig is everyone talking about, Ji has been a Sunderland player for at least 2 years, remember the last minute goal against Man c ! that was Dec 2012 so where has this story come from ?, and why does he need clearance twice ?. And remember years ago when Tranmere had 11 men on the pitch after they had a player sent off against us in the f a cup years ago but got away with it, the Tevez fiasco, the missed nailed on penalty(their player elbowed the ball) against WHU we never got on Monday, the sending off's and poor refs this season, that is the F A paying us back the mistakes they have made against us this season, And not to mention in 1994 Spurs being docked 12 points and getting kicked out of the f a cup but got the points back and re-instated back in the cup. We might be better off in the championship next season away from all the **** hype the premier league gets.
 
What the frig is everyone talking about, Ji has been a Sunderland player for at least 2 years, remember the last minute goal against Man c ! that was Dec 2012 so where has this story come from ?, and why does he need clearance twice ?. And remember years ago when Tranmere had 11 men on the pitch after they had a player sent off against us in the f a cup years ago but got away with it, the Tevez fiasco, the missed nailed on penalty(their player elbowed the ball) against WHU we never got on Monday, the sending off's and poor refs this season, that is the F A paying us back the mistakes they have made against us this season, And not to mention in 1994 Spurs being docked 12 points and getting kicked out of the f a cup but got the points back and re-instated back in the cup. We might be better off in the championship next season away from all the **** hype the premier league gets.

Don't worry Monty, we'll still keep a close eye on you <Warm Glow> :emoticon-0118-yawn:
 
I can fully understand the stance the FA have taken, and fair do's that they are taking into account all aspects of the case, but their illiteracy still doesn't make Cheating acceptable.
They are simply hiding behind that as an excuse for blatantly cheating and probably laughing at the FA now they think they've got away with it.
 
Did Ji score or assist in any of those games? Probably not, because Ji is **** <ok>

Tis not like they concealed the paperwork on purpose because it would give them an advantage to play this amazing star of world football...

Having said that, Sunderland should be automatically relegated and immediately disbanded for having boring, inane, soppy, beeling not606 fans <ok>.
 
Did Ji score or assist in any of those games? Probably not, because Ji is **** <ok>

Tis not like they concealed the paperwork on purpose because it would give them an advantage to play this amazing star of world football...

Having said that, Sunderland should be automatically relegated and immediately disbanded for having boring, inane, soppy, beeling not606 fans <ok>.


Going fishing tonight JPF?
 
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