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London's Only EC Winners said:
Shows what a lousy manager Moyes is. He only gets a decent game out of him cos Rvp is injured and has to push Wayne up
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Every manager makes mistakes. It's about learning from them now. He's learning more and more about his players, and after Mata's game at West Ham I'm sure he's realised he needs to play him there. Rooney and RVP are also both sick notes, so the chances of all 3 being fit at the same time isn't that high:biggrin:
 
King Shergar said:
Every manager makes mistakes. It's about learning from them now. He's learning more and more about his players, and after Mata's game at West Ham I'm sure he's realised he needs to play him there. Rooney and RVP are also both sick notes, so the chances of all 3 being fit at the same time isn't that high:biggrin:
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One of them is surely off in the Summer. There's no way any professional football manager could sign Mata and be ******ed enough to play him wide. Arguably the best number 10 in the league but sheer mediocrity out wide.
 
Watford_R said:
One of them is surely off in the Summer. There's no way any professional football manager could sign Mata and be ******ed enough to play him wide. Arguably the best number 10 in the league but sheer mediocrity out wide.
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This.
Its like signing Messi and sticking him in goal.
Total ******ation.
 
Watford_R said:
One of them is surely off in the Summer. There's no way any professional football manager could sign Mata and be ******ed enough to play him wide. Arguably the best number 10 in the league but sheer mediocrity out wide.
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He has played out wide in the past and done well in that position, so not as daft as your trying to imply! If you watched him in his Valencia days you would know this :biggrin:
 
King Shergar said:
He has played out wide in the past and done well in that position, so not as daft as your trying to imply! If you watched him in his Valencia days you would know this :biggrin:
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You think playing out wide in a 4-4-2 is the same as playing in a 4-3-3? He CAN play out wide but the system has to suit him.
 
Purley said:
You think playing out wide in a 4-4-2 is the same as playing in a 4-3-3? He CAN play out wide but the system has to suit him.
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I think you can get away with it against weaker sides, or if the central midfielders are better. Take David Silva and Nasri for City, both of those players are similar to Mata, particularly Silva, and they can play wide yet don't track back to much. They are not proper wingers either, they drift in a lot. So a 442 with players like Mata in wide positions can work, as City have shown this season:biggrin:
 
King Shergar said:
Every manager makes mistakes. It's about learning from them now. He's learning more and more about his players, and after Mata's game at West Ham I'm sure he's realised he needs to play him there. Rooney and RVP are also both sick notes, so the chances of all 3 being fit at the same time isn't that high:biggrin:
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He spent £37m on an no 10, why did he need to learn that is his position?
 
London's Only EC Winners said:
He spent £37m on an no 10, why did he need to learn that is his position?
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Please show me where Moyes said he bought him to play number 10? We have Rooney, and RVP, and Mata will only play that position when one is injured. Perhaps RVP is off in the summer who knows, though as I've already pointed out, both regularly have injury problems, so Moyes probably bought Mata knowing he will come in handy when RVP and Rooney have there usual injury every few weeks :biggrin:
 
King Shergar said:
Please show me where Moyes said he bought him to play number 10? We have Rooney, and RVP, and Mata will only play that position when one is injured. Perhaps RVP is off in the summer who knows, though as I've already pointed out, both regularly have injury problems, so Moyes probably bought Mata knowing he will come in handy when RVP and Rooney have there usual injury every few weeks :biggrin:
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He was a panic buy, plain and simple. Matic would of been a far better player for you.
 
King Shergar said:
I think you can get away with it against weaker sides, or if the central midfielders are better. Take David Silva and Nasri for City, both of those players are similar to Mata, particularly Silva, and they can play wide yet don't track back to much. They are not proper wingers either, they drift in a lot. So a 442 with players like Mata in wide positions can work, as City have shown this season:biggrin:
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They also have toure and fernandinho covering for them.
 
Purley said:
They also have toure and fernandinho covering for them.
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That's the point I was making, you can play Mata wide against the weaker sides, as they won't expose Carrick and Fellaini, but if your gonna play Mata wide against the top sides, you need 2 midfielders like Fernandinho and Toure. So it was a big tactical error from Moyes to play him wide in the Liverpool game, though you don't know it won't work until you try it, so I can't see him trying that again :biggrin:
 
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